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  • #46
    Mr.1904
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 3310

    Where you at highlander?
    "Then there are sheepdogs. The sheepdogs are the bastions of safety. The sheepdog lives solely to protect the flock and confront the wolf. They live for the opportunity to be called to duty to protect the innocent. The sheepdog has fangs and the propensity for violence but hopes that he will not have to resort to it. However, he lives for that day when he will be able to use his warrior skills and mindset to keep the wolf from harming the sheep."

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    • #47
      tal3nt
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 3168

      I think the HIGH/LOW stuff might have to do with how folks align that front sight. Many people line it up with the rear so that the entire white dot is still visible through the rear notch: this will make you shoot high. A Properly aligned front sight should have it's housing horizontally level with the housing of the rear sight, this way only the upper half of the white dot is visible. This way the POI sits directly on top of the horizon.

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      • #48
        tal3nt
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 3168

        Originally posted by HighLander51
        I currently have 9 Glocks, all of them shoot to point of aim, as did the other 20 or so I have owned. I put aftermarket fixed sights on the G34 and G17L. I've got a few leftover OEM adjustables if anybody wants them, free.


        Are they junk?

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        • #49
          G-forceJunkie
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2010
          • 6473

          As mentioned, Glock makes 4 different heights of their factory plastic rear site. If the problem is your gun, it can be fixed by installing a different rear site.

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          • #50
            BamBam-31
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            • Dec 2005
            • 5318

            Originally posted by tal3nt
            Are they junk?
            Yes, OEM plastic sights from Glock, both fixed and adjustable, are pretty much junk. I just go into all new Glock purchases knowing that I'll purchase aftermarket sights. Fortunately, there's a plethora of fantastic sights available from Heinie, Dawson Precision, Sevigny, Trijicon, Meprolight, etc.
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            • #51
              redcliff
              Calguns Addict
              • Feb 2008
              • 5676

              Originally posted by HighLander51
              I currently have 9 Glocks, all of them shoot to point of aim, as did the other 20 or so I have owned. I put aftermarket fixed sights on the G34 and G17L. I've got a few leftover OEM adjustables if anybody wants them, free.
              It sounds like you put a lot of effort into regulating poi/poa at the distances you shoot at. Not surprising given the high calibre of a shooter that you are.

              However "Glocks shoot to point of aim" can be a misleading statement.

              As you're no doubt aware, point of impact and point of aim will coincide at exactly two (and only two) distances during a bullet's trajectory on a properly sighted pistol (or rifle). Even Gaston Glock can't alter the laws of geometry and physics. These are referred to as the Initial Point and the Zero Range. It sounds like you use a 40 yard Zero Range.

              With the low sight height above the bore enjoyed by Glock's design and flat shooting (at least for pistols) bullet trajectory of the cartridge you employ, you end up with a fairly long Maximum Point Blank Range, i.e. the distance where the bulets trajectory impacts at an acceptable height above or below line of sight within the Critical Zone as defined by your parameters.

              Last edited by redcliff; 07-08-2012, 1:14 PM.
              "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
              "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
              "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

              "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
              although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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              • #52
                HighLander51
                Banned
                • Feb 2010
                • 5144

                Originally posted by tal3nt
                Are they junk?
                Sights are personal, but the OEM's (not OEM night sights) aren't worth anything for competition. OEM night sights are ok for HD/carry. That's why there is so many good aftermarket ones.

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                • #53
                  HighLander51
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 5144

                  Originally posted by redcliff
                  It sounds like you use a 40 yard Zero Range.
                  Yea, I know what all that stuff means, but it doesn't mean much between 3 feet and 40 yards for a pistol, now a rifle, yes, zero a .223REM at 35 and 300 yards for a 10" window from 0 to 350. This is what's on the butt stock of my competition AR's, and represents point of aim for a center hit.

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                  • #54
                    HighLander51
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 5144

                    Originally posted by tbhracing
                    Only 9 Glocks? Gees dude...
                    Well, that's down from 13! 6 for competition, G24/G17L/G34 and 3 G17's, G31/G19/G23 for carry.

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                    • #55
                      SilverTauron
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 5699

                      Originally posted by Big K
                      Well I recently took my new Glock 17 to the range and found out it shoots a little high, enough I have to aim low at 35 yards, didn't really test how many inches or anything fancy like that. How can I fix this? do I have to get aftermarket sights, I know u can lower, or get lower, the rear sights or get a larger front sight but I really don't want a larger front sight.....

                      Any suggestions?
                      First, dry fire is in order. We must control the most likely variable in the shooting system of gun and shooter-you.


                      Assuming all proper safety precautions are observed,place a dime or a spent casing on top of the front sight blade. CAREFULLY assume a firing posture and position. Press the trigger like usual and observe where the dime falls.

                      Dime falls to the left=jerk to the right
                      Dime falls off the front=Pushing the shot
                      Dime falls back=pulling the shot.

                      Once you've dry fired the piece enough to not disturb the dime , hit the range and see if the gun still hits off POA. Ill bet a dime your sights will have adjusted themselves!
                      The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
                      The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
                      -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

                      The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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                      • #56
                        tbc
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 5955

                        OP,
                        It could be your pistol but the probability is remote. One way to find out is to borrow another G17 with the same sights and trigger system and shoot it along with your new Glock. If the POI is different, then it is your new pistol.


                        Sent from my iPhone

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                        • #57
                          HighLander51
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 5144

                          Like I said, not much going on between 0 and 40 yards for a handgun, in this case 124 9mm American Eagle, little over an inch.....

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                          • #58
                            MrExel17
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 9170

                            Originally posted by welchy
                            No offense, but it is more than likely you not the gun.
                            +1, I also agree
                            "Professionals practice to get it right, Operators practise to get it wrong."

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                            • #59
                              Shenaniguns
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 6158

                              Originally posted by tal3nt
                              A man can shoot targets with his Glock at whatever distance he so chooses to. God Bless America


                              +1

                              I don't understand why some people are only focused on shooting at close distances and are closed minded to shoot beyond that. And shooting at longer distances can help you with shooting at closer distances.
                              My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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                              • #60
                                Shenaniguns
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 6158

                                Originally posted by KandyRedCoi
                                of course but dont expect it to be a tack driver,its a combat pistol for crying out loud....sure u can drive a ferrari off road if u really wanted to....but its the wrong tool for the job

                                There are plenty of Combat Pistol's that can be considered tack drivers, why not Glocks? What is your definition of a tack driver?
                                My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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