DA/SA 9mm with nice trigger?

[Tiberius]

I'm also a DA/SA fan, and while I haven't had a chance to try a CZ, I'm often surprised when I come back to it how good the 92FS is. It's so common it's tempting to think it isn't, but for me, it is. Add in a D spring and apparently it gets even better.

[Lead Waster]

Same with the SA pull. The CZ hammer cams back before the break.


And I'm baffled why you ONLY want a DA/SA gun, but only care about the SA trigger...

Easy, USPSA/IPSC production division!

I bought my SP-01 just for the DA/SA because my CZ-75 SA didn't qualify for production. And I'm dumb. but that's the only reasons!


OP, if you felt the SA on my SP-01, you would pee yourself.

[Lead Waster]

I'm a big fan of things that go bang in a hurry if needed, and I just don't like the idea of cocked-and-locked. I doubt it will ever come up, but I like that I can just pick the thing up and mash the trigger.

Ugh, this means you have to decock it. If you want a decocker, then you won't have the manual safety. If you want the safety, you'll have to manually decock.

DA revolvers <> DA/SA auto.

Remember, you have to rack the slide to chamber a round, now you are in SA mode. If you want to go back to DA, then you have to decock somehow. Now if you say you will only ever shoot in SA, then you'll have to thumb back the hammer to get back into SA mode.

So you are saying that at the range, you'll use SA, but for sitting on your nightstand you want DA, but you said this was a range toy?

Anyway, for whatever you want it for, the CZ's are a good choice as are the sigs. The decocker SP-01 is off roster, btw.

[Buck13]

OP, if you felt the SA on my SP-01, you would pee yourself.

Oh, joy!

Wait...

[tacticalcity]

Well since it is a range toy, I won't argue with ya too much. It just sounds like unfamiliarity is making you nervious about other actions, and with some training and first hand experience I don't think you would be as uncomfortable with them. Not saying a DA/SA is not the way to go, but the fact that you plan on bypassing the DA pull the majority of the time kinds suggests you don't want a DA/SA...but you're too nervious for safety reasons to look at something else just yet.

So I suggest looing into a professional Defensive Handgun Course at some point regardless of what you get for now. That is not an insult. I take one once a year. Would take one a week if I could afford it. A lot of people are unaware that those classes are available. They are a lot of fun, and you leave with a giant leap in ability and huge increase in confidence. You can take them with a revolver, but they are setup more for semi-autos and you'll enjoy the course more with a semi-auto. Otherwise it's almost like the instructor has to teach two courses at once and about half the material and things you learn are different. In any case, I highly recommend them. Loads of fun. See the Competition, Action-Shooting and Training Section here on Calguns for ads for schools near you. Big name schools usually require travel high cost and several days, but local schools usually only run $160 for an 8 hour Saturday course. Definately a lot more fun than basic range safety course-that is for sure. Can't say enough good things about them (so I do so often).

A heads up. After that course, you won't be skipping the DA pull anymore. You will think of it as cheating. If you stick with DA/SA handguns you'll master them both. Practicing to the point where there is no difference between them and your muscle memory handles it automatically. Draw and fire a "controlled pair" or "non-standard response" in under a second, and have complete confidence that you will not miss and will do so safely. It's a pretty damn cool feeling...especially at first. It is a little harder to do as fast with a DA/SA gun but with time and training you'll get there. First step is to take a Level I course. Much more fun than just plinking at the range...trust me!

[snafu510]

I like the CZ 75b. I only use it for target shooting so the DA is there but I don't think about it. The single action pull was okay out of the box , but I went with a Cajun Gun Works hammer kit. Much better now. I had fired range rentals so I knew how the trigger feels when it's had some wear and it does improve, but I like to tinker so I upgraded. I sold a S&W M&P 9c and a 39-2 and replaced them with the CZ.

On your Ruger Mark II you can get a Volquartsen sear that will really improve the trigger. Not hard to install, there are good tutorials on the web. It still won't be as good as the S&W, but it's pretty nice.

[orangeusa]

A real expert wouldn't force others to read their WALL of TEXT. Which is a repeat, repeat, repeat... argghggggh

What the heck. I like 92's. I like Ruger P series. I like Sigs, I like CZ's. DA/SA - I'm comfortable with. Heck I had a Beretta 8000D and thought it was pretty cool - DAO with VERY smooth trigger.


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[Buck13]

OK, thanks for the ideas. A local range has most of the common guns mentioned for rental use, so I can shoot at least 5 of these. Probably I'll throw an M+P or SR9 into the mix, too, just to go against my grain and try a DAO.

[Bee22]

CZ75b with competition hammer, 13lb main spring and extended firing pin! SA pull is as light as my Dan Wesson 1911

[SnWnMe]

I only carried one kind of DA auto. It was for the military and it was a stock M9. I aced the static and run and gun qual courses everytime.

It's not the DA or SA pull of any decent autoloader you should concern yourself about. It's the practice you put into DA and SA shooting using strong and weak hands.

[Patermagnus]

Yeah if you're near San Francisco you're welcome to shoot my SP-01. Out of the box, they're a little bit rough but they smooth out after a couple/few hundred rounds to have one of the smoothest DA/SA triggers out there. A lighter hammer spring noticeably lightens up the DA pull. An extra $100 to get a tuned sear/hammer set from Cajun Gun Works and you will absolutely not find anything better in both DA/SA except maybe some tuned revolvers. SA with a worked hammer/sear can break as cleanly as a high end 1911 and can be as light as you want it.

Also, accuracy of a CZ is basically impossible to beat by anything in the general price range with a factory barrel. If it's target shooting at 25 yards, this would be a great choice.

This.

[GMANtt]

Beretta 92fs with a D spring. Smooth DA/SA trigger. I love mine and its also given me no problems. Cheap mags too.

[Buck13]

Bersa Thunder Pro

I visited a big used gun shop last week (DJ's Loan and Sport near Seattle; please don't hate me because I can have 15 round magazines! ), thinking I was going to buy a CZ 82 and got to dry-fire a Bersa Thunder .380. Trigger felt really impressive. Based only on that, seems like these are great little guns.

Is the larger Thunder Pro series as nice? Trigger, accuracy? Or is the Thunder .380 their halo model?

(The 82s they had were a bit more battered than I expected, so didn't bite on anything.)

[feelgood]

you will enjoy sig p 226 which are now in the $850-900 (depends on store), and if you are a little tight on the budget a sig sp2022..around $400-$450 (depends on the store also)..they are both target and bedside firearms..

[shooterdude]

CZ75b with competition hammer, 13lb main spring and extended firing pin! SA pull is as light as my Dan Wesson 1911

+1 on this!