Coming to “The Roster”?

[LLE2022]

Imagine my joy upon hearing the news that Springfield Armory has released the Prodigy in a 10-rounder!

https://www.thearmorylife.com/first-look-10-round-prodigy-9mm/

Any news on if this is coming to the roster?

[morrcarr67]

Probably not. They'd have to put all the CA BS safeties, including the MDS. I haven't seen any 1911 platform with one, that's not saying that it hasn't or can't be done.

[1911whore]

[wamphyri13]

New York has mag restrictions but nothing about LCI, Mainspring Disconnect, or Microstamping. California does. As long as we have Microstamping and Mainspring Disconnect, no new 1911 will make the roster. Para found a simple way around the LCI by putting a notch in the barrel hood.

[bigboyshooter]

[el_clingon]

I heard this from the grapevine that the Echelon and the prodigy was going to be added but as usual i will believe it when I see it.

[Zenderfall]

New York has mag restrictions but nothing about LCI, Mainspring Disconnect, or Microstamping. California does. As long as we have Microstamping and Mainspring Disconnect, no new 1911 will make the roster. Para found a simple way around the LCI by putting a notch in the barrel hood.

CA currently does NOT currently have microstamping, that requirement went away sometime last year. That is why quite a few guns have gotten onto the roster, for example, P320/P365, Hellcat, Victory, MkIV, etc. The current requirements for centerfire handguns are Magazine Disconnect Mechanism (MDM) and Chamber-Load Indicator (CLI). The latter of which to not be confused with LCI, there is a difference. Rimfire handguns only need to have an MDM. A simple notch in the barrel hood does not count as a CLI.

From what I noticed, I believe, for handguns, there needs to also exist an external safety "of some sort" as well. Safety on the trigger (Example: Glock), grip safety (example: XD), manual safeties all count to qualify. It's one of the reasons the P320/P365 CA versions (including the three recent additions) all have manual safeties-SIG Sauer doesn't have a trigger safety on those guns like Glock does, nor do they have grip safeties, so they fitted their manual safety on all the CA models.

The question remains, will SA design the requirements into the Prodigy & Echelon to be able to submit for CA roster inclusion? I don't know but I hope so. I like the Prodigy. I think it will sell well here.

[Enthused]

From what I noticed, I believe, for handguns, there needs to also exist an external safety "of some sort" as well. Safety on the trigger (Example: Glock), grip safety (example: XD), manual safeties all count to qualify. It's one of the reasons the P320/P365 CA versions (including the three recent additions) all have manual safeties-SIG Sauer doesn't have a trigger safety on those guns like Glock does, nor do they have grip safeties, so they fitted their manual safety on all the CA models.

Does a decocker count as a safety? Ex: CZ-75BD and CZ-75D PCR. No safety of any kind, only a decocker.

[smittty]

Does a decocker count as a safety? Ex: CZ-75BD and CZ-75D PCR. No safety of any kind, only a decocker.

Those two guns got on the roster before the current requirements, same as the the gen 3 glocks.

[LLE2022]

I heard this from the grapevine that the Echelon and the prodigy was going to be added but as usual i will believe it when I see it.

[Quiet]

Does a decocker count as a safety? Ex: CZ-75BD and CZ-75D PCR. No safety of any kind, only a decocker.

Those two guns got on the roster before the current requirements, same as the the gen 3 glocks.

CA required "a positive manually operated safety device, as determined by standards relating to imported guns promulgated by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms" since 01-01-2001.

Since 1968, Federal laws required handguns imported for civilian sale to have certain criteria.
One of those criteria is a positive manually operated safety device and per BATFE...
If pulling the trigger disables any internal safety features that prevents the handgun from discharging accidentally, then it meets the requirements for a "positive manually operated safety device".
^Since this is what the BATFE requires for legally importing handguns into the USA, this also meets the CA requirements.

[JackRydden224]

It would be great to get into a 2011 for less than $1500. Hoping this comes on the roster somehow

[Garbcollector]

I like ?

[abinsinia]

The roster got updated with a new manufacture on the manufacture drop down named "Rost Martin"

This normally means they are about to add a gun from Rost Martin.

The only gun they seem to sell is the RM1C,

https://www.rostmartin.com/rm-firearms/

[olddirtygerm]

The roster got updated with a new manufacture on the manufacture drop down named "Rost Martin"

This normally means they are about to add a gun from Rost Martin.

The only gun they seem to sell is the RM1C,

https://www.rostmartin.com/rm-firearms/

The RM1C is nice. Based on the Arex Delta. Decently priced in a free state. They were handing out coupons for free rentals at the NRA Annual Meeting back in May. Still need to try it