Does round count really matter these days?

[shooterdude]

If you were in the military you would be handed a pistol that could have tens of thousands of rounds through it and may or may not have been well maintained or minimally maintained. You are also EXPECTED to shoot people trying very hard to kill you.

What are you going to do...ask for the gun with less than 50,000 rounds?

[Mstnpete]

A perfect example is .... buying a used car, you want to know what the mileage is....... same with guns.

[shooterdude]

A perfect example is .... buying a used car, you want to know what the mileage is....... same with guns.

What round count is good? Bad? Why?

[sirgiles]

A perfect example is .... buying a used car, you want to know what the mileage is....... same with guns.

odometer rollback has a minimum penalty of $2k.
guns do not have a counter and buyer suffers no penalty for lying.

[emy]

If the gun was well maintained round count shouldn't matter too much. I have a 1st gen Glock 17 with about 25k through it and still looks good and shoots great. Just look before you buy .The gun with less round may not shoot better than a gun with 500rd through it.

[Mstnpete]

If the gun was well maintained round count shouldn't matter too much. I have a 1st gen Glock 17 with about 25k through it and still looks good and shoots great. Just look before you buy .The gun with less round may not shoot better than a gun with 500rd through it.

I have Glocks I use for competition and have placed more rounds on them.
But if I do decide to sell. I will not ask close to brand new pricing.
I shoot at least 200-300 per weekend.

On a high round count , it's always best to inspect the weapon first, specially on pistols. If there's to much play on a slide than I would think twice.

[Uxi]

When bragging in the Calguns forums about how reliable your gun is, it has fired 100,000 plus rounds, only cleaned once yet never had a single failure of any kind. When selling, it was only shot every other Sunday by an elderly lady with arthritic hands and was thoroughly cleaned and inspected by a gunsmith after every range trip.

Insert clapping gif here. That was great.

I would tend to think that modern weapons aren't as reliable as WW2 vintage items. For all the advancements in technology, the race has mostly been to the bottom line. Tiny springs, etc are one thing but even the main receivers, etc. No evidence or anything, just what my gut feeling would be. That said, most casual shooters will outlive their weapons useful lifespan.

[Grumpyoldretiredcop]

I use it as a check on the seller's honesty. If they tell me that it's only had 200 rounds down the pipe, and the wear patterns tell me differently, then I know that the seller cannot be trusted and I'm less likely to buy that item.

Tell me honestly or tell me you don't know if you don't. Don't try to blow smoke up my plumber's crack as that'll cost you the sale.

[beretta929mm]

Does car mileage really matter these days?

[Blackhawk556]

Does car mileage really matter these days?

You have to remember that cars have many, many more moving parts. Plus, remember all the electrical stuff. Guns don't have all this. I can't
Remember when was the last time I took my 1911 to an electrician to fix a short it had

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[CSACANNONEER]

You have to remember that cars have many, many more moving parts. Plus, remember all the electrical stuff. Guns don't have all this. I can't
Remember when was the last time I took my 1911 to an electrician to fix a short it had

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Electronic triggers have been around for close to half a century now. Electronic optics are all the rage right now. Maybe you just like driving the old Model Ts and don't like the newer models????

[chim-chim7]

Does round count matter? On modern guns not so much. What matters is how well the gun was maintained during ownership.

[ap3572001]

My agency is using Glocks. We only shoot (even for practice) the very best JHP ammunition). Each gun is serviced, parts updated, magazines have new springs etc. I You got a pistlo like that even after 20000 it wiill be just fine.

[Dhena81]

I think it matters but I think it matters to much for some people. I was selling a great gun last week that only had 1500 rounds through it and people kept trying to low ball me because of it. I think 1500 rounds is nothing but I think it might seem high since lots of buyers never put 1500 rounds down range in their lifetime. They just want a safe queen like a guy buying a jeep with rock tires to go to the mall.

[meaty-btz]

Most cop guns & some civvies get "carried much, shot little." They'll show holster wear but be good & tight mechanically. I could see a gun being carried for 10 years & have 500 - 1000 rounds through it.

Holster wear shows wear on holster wear locations.

Firing wear is the only way to wear on bearing surfaces.

Why does round count matter? It is a litmus test for honesty of the buyer and a "quick assessment" of the arm in question.

Step one: find ad for gun you want
Step two: examine advertised usage (round count or an honest dunno but it was xxxxx)
Step three: examine pictures of arm in question to observe discrepancies
Step Four: Compare Pricing Structure vs new vs auction vs tax, etc. Aka the Economic Assessment of the Arm.

In my case step 4 is the sticky point and is based on previous points. If the seller claims low usage but the arm shows heavy bearing surface wear then I am going to assume the seller is a lier and his maint cycle is now in question. I will then low-ball because I don't trust the seller as he has proven dishonest in his first contact with me. I will presume fault in arm or heavy wear and will account my own repair costs and time against the value of the arm.

So the first thing people need to be is honest, with themselves and others, especially when selling something. It is even more dishonest to inflate pricing to meet some psychological failing as a result of knowing one has "overpaid" when one acquired the item in question. I was in a commissioned sales position at one point in my life. I made a killing. I was the only honest salesman and before I left I had them lining up to be served by me and me alone. I never sold them anything the didn't need and built a trust relationship that made me cold hard cash by the bucketful. As such, I despise dishonest sales people.

That is life. Buck up and be an honest seller and then you can lambaste the customer justly for being a dishonest person but you start with yourself, not the other guy. If you have to hype a product or fluff the description you are then certainly attempting to hide some product deficiency or attempting to make an over-abundant profit on something you KNOW to lack that value. Good product sells itself based on it's own qualities and value. If it cannot be accurately represented and sold at that value then you are over-valuing it.