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Discussion is for 1911. But it may still be applicable since all auto loaders shared the same genetic trades.
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You shouldn't be making smart comments
Hey, I don't want to stir topic wrong way. But before you make comment like this, you should make sure that you know the person you are insulting.
That is just lubricant all over the gun. So, to prove that you are entirely wrong, I wiped off and made picture again. I do not touch anything with any kind of tool if something work properly. I learned long time ago: if ain't broken-don't fix it. There is tiny ding on feed ramp on left side (can be seen on picture), I even didn't remove it because gun work perfectly.
BTW, I was in radiocontrol hobby for over 30 years and I am with Dremel better then you with fork. I was designing and built engines for RC airpalnes, boats and cars by myself. I was champion of USSR in this hobby and not just ones. If you are really interesting what I can do with Dremel, I can post pics, but not here.
Now, to the rest of the community, I apologize for my post, but I couldn't resist to respond to insulting post from this guy.
There is nothing wrong with my gun, it works like it should, no jams, no FTF, no FTE. It is in virgin condition (except for grip screws-I love socket cap screws) as I bought her CPO from shop and it has about 3000 rounds through her with no problem at all since I use only factory ammo.
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In the last few years I have noticed several officers having problems with their newer SIG 220's and 8rd magazines during qualifications
I have seen VERY few problems with older P220's and 7rd magazines.Comment
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Yea I may have looked at another and got confused, in any case.
Funny, I've shot plenty of new sigs (in excess of 15 as of last weekend, all my buddys own Sigs), 2004 and up, even 2011 models. No issues ever, the trigger even feels better than my W. German models did. There were major issues with the SP2009 and some extractor issues with the actual P220's back in the mid 2000's but even so, they were overblown. I'd send it to Sig for the service simply because who knows how many rounds have gone through it. For 100 plus bucks they'll take it apart, new springs, inspect it, new screws, night sights (and zero), etc...
Its weird because half of my Sigs have had internal extractors and I never ever had issues.....yet the new thing is putting external ones on, sigs and new gun alike. I wonder if its really worth it
. I wonder if it was even worth the trouble when the internal one works fine. Who knows....
Strange, until recently (and apparently), they were always using mecgars and no checkmates (I dont like that one bit, especially for the $$ you shell out for a SIG), but I've yet to actually see one come with checkmates with my own eyes. It must be just starting or depending on the model because I've shot a few brand new out of box P series models and they all had OEM or mecgar. I cant figure out why theres no consistency unless its based on certain models.Last edited by Sturnovik; 01-22-2012, 11:06 AM.Comment
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I think (but don't know for sure) that new accounts on Sigforum are done in batches. If you do a search of other CGNers asking about Sigforum membership, you might see one or two Sigforum members suggesting that you PM them your user name/email addy so they can help get your membership rolling.x
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I have owned , carried Sig pistols on and off since 1991. German P225,P228,
P226 and P220 (7rd mags) were VERY reliable.
As I said before , the current .40 and .45 SIG's SEEM to be not as reliable.
I have no experience with the current 9mm.
THE MOST reliable SIG's in my opinion are older German single stack 220 and 225 in 9mm.
PS. I am talking about LE hard use, not a once in while slow fire range sessions.Comment
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Well I've had experience with all 4 calibers (9mm, .357 sig, .40, 45). 45 was the most finicky, out of the maybe 1500 rounds I've ever shot out of a P220, I've had 2 jams, one was ammo induced and the other well, who knows. LE hard use is hard to judge in today's terms, the average LEO qualifies maybe 2-4 times a year and 500-1500 rounds per session and even with 1,000 rounds for most departments may be in excess in times of budget. I ran these as hard if not harder than most LEO's do, my range doesn't make me "slow fire". And bummer, the P226 is considered one of the most reliable 9mm's out there, you gotta atleast try one besides the P220 and P225.
In any case, .45 has never been Sigs perfect caliber to date in terms of issues, but its not the only brand. Your right though, typically speaking the .45 SEEMS to have the most issues with Sigs.Last edited by Sturnovik; 01-22-2012, 1:38 PM.Comment
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I own an original P220ST from 2000 and a P220 from 1998, both with an internal extractor and both have been 100% flawless. Bought a couple P220 variances post 2004 with internal extractors and both had this ftf problem.
Its weird because half of my Sigs have had internal extractors and I never ever had issues.....yet the new thing is putting external ones on, sigs and new gun alike. I wonder if its really worth it. I wonder if it was even worth the trouble when the internal one works fine. Who knows....
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Interesting, the P220 I had was a 2006, got to use it for a course. It was external and strangely it had no jams. An earlier W. German model I borrowed on a regular basis was more accurate, like if I actually took my time I'd get 1.5 groups at 15 yards, where as the newer ones were 2.0 or slightly larger groups, not sure why. In any case my only jam or two was the internal one, but I dont know if I've developed a preference for either extractor.
Was the one from 1998 the standard plain jane model or a more expensive model? I remember getting to see a ST 220 model once, wish I had the money for one
, your lucky.
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If you live somewhere close to San Fernando Valley, we can meet up at Northridge firing line, I can bring my P220 and we can try things around-you can try my magazines and recoil spring and I can try to run my gun with your stuff. Then we can narrow the problem. Also we can visually compare internal parts.sd_shooter:
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One was really bad that it did it with almost every other mag no matter what fix I tried. It went to Sig and was replaced and polished the feedramp. It was more reliable but every now and then would still occur. I just couldn't keep any gun I wouldn't trust my life with. LOng story short, all my newer Sigs are gone. All eight of them. I only kept a few, pre 05 Sigs.Comment
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