HELP sig p220 problem

[Cyphre]

That doesn't look normal and its not int he first set of pics that you posted. Did you chip off a piece?

Different gun and person entirely?

[RRichie09]

Different gun and person entirely?

haha I didn't catch that. Thanks

[cineski]

Not a good idea to compare pics of a 220 folded slide and milled slide.

[4fifth]

I took a trip to the gun shop this morning to check out other sig p220s the gap between my feed ramps is double that of all others I seen on new and older.

[RRichie09]

I took a trip to the gun shop this morning to check out other sig p220s the gap between my feed ramps is double that of all others I seen on new and older.

It really doesn't matter though cause the tip of the bullet should be hitting WELL above that point. It sounds more and more like a weak mag spring or perhaps a worn follower? Maybe your mag isn't seating correctly? Buy some brand new mags and see how it works. You want more than 2 mags anyways right?

[1nsanity]

Are you greasing the slide and rails? Sigs do love running wet...

[Sturnovik]

Dont overgrease that Sig OP, regardless of what everyone says.

The feed ramp does look pretty rough, someone else caused that before you or was it an accident?

Even so it should be hitting above that point, new mags and spring should help everything all together.

[4fifth]

Dont overgrease that Sig OP, regardless of what everyone says.

The feed ramp does look pretty rough, someone else caused that before you or was it an accident?

Even so it should be hitting above that point, new mags and spring should help everything all together.

As far as the feed ramps mine are the very top pictures, another forum member posted theres as a comparison to show there feed ramp gaps ,yea im hopeing its just a mag issue

[4fifth]

Are you greasing the slide and rails? Sigs do love running wet...

Not currently ,what grease do you guys recommend?

[Fishslayer]

Wonder if Bubba done gone & got hissef a Dremel tool.

Here are couple pics of my P220. I didn't resize them so you can better see feed rump and insert. I hope it will help.

[1nsanity]

Not currently ,what grease do you guys recommend?

http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/430601935/m/908103701

He does go a bit much on the grease then I tend to go but this gives you and idea on what contact points to lube. I use Milcomm or Tetra myself. Start with a basic cleaning and lubing as a starting point I would say if you haven't yet...

[huckberry668]

3-point jams like this is usually the mag but the looks of it doesn't seem like weak mag spring to me. Weak mag spring would cause the bullet jamming up straight into the mag well. Yours is inside the chamber which means the bullet still pointing upwards. The back end of the round not able to line up with the bore is the problem.

If it jams when you drop the slide with the slide stop it usually means the mag is the cause. I've seen cheap mags does this on a full mag. Too much friction inside, deformed follower, mag spring installed backwards, damaged or out of spec mag body. Check all of these. make sure contact surfaces have no burrs or damages and clean the mag inside out.

I don't think the gap between the barrel and frame feed ramps is the cause. The gap is mandatory. It's similar to the 1911 setup. On the 1911 there needs to be a gap of 'at least' 1/16". If anything the larger gap allows more time for the round to line up with the bore.

I don't think the finish on the feed ramps is the cause either. It looked like the head of the brass wasn't allowed to 'slide' up the bolt face. I'd like to take a look at the bolt face especially the bottom tang that picks up the brass edge. Make sure it's smooth, no burrs, no dings.

Also, what 2 types of ammo are you using? Reloads? 'Flying Ashtray' hollow points? SWC?

[4fifth]

3-point jams like this is usually the mag but the looks of it doesn't seem like weak mag spring to me. Weak mag spring would cause the bullet jamming up straight into the mag well. Yours is inside the chamber which means the bullet still pointing upwards. The back end of the round not able to line up with the bore is the problem.

If it jams when you drop the slide with the slide stop it usually means the mag is the cause. I've seen cheap mags does this on a full mag. Too much friction inside, deformed follower, mag spring installed backwards, damaged or out of spec mag body. Check all of these. make sure contact surfaces have no burrs or damages and clean the mag inside out.

I don't think the gap between the barrel and frame feed ramps is the cause. The gap is mandatory. It's similar to the 1911 setup. On the 1911 there needs to be a gap of 'at least' 1/16". If anything the larger gap allows more time for the round to line up with the bore.

I don't think the finish on the feed ramps is the cause either. It looked like the head of the brass wasn't allowed to 'slide' up the bolt face. I'd like to take a look at the bolt face especially the bottom tang that picks up the brass edge. Make sure it's smooth, no burrs, no dings.

Also, what 2 types of ammo are you using? Reloads? 'Flying Ashtray' hollow points? SWC?

What exactly are you referring to as the bolt face and bottom tang? Il getmsome pics of it.

Ammo I was using at the range was blazer brass and some other cheap ammo they had at the time didnt get the name but no reloads.At home when it jamed was with federal and Winchester sxt hollows.

[luckystrike]

It looks like the slide is trying to ride home on top of the bullet, the bottom piece of the slide that strips cartridges off of the mag should hit it at the case rim and not the body of the case like that. Also the wear at the very top of the feed ramp section on the barrel looks abnormal. Then again that's just what it looks like to me, better/closeups would help

[RT13]

I'm surprised no Sig fanatics have commented yet on this one. This is a very well known problem with the post 2005 P220's. This is what plagued the P220 the last few years. Odds are, the seller of your gun experienced this, knew this and sold it to you. It's not your mag or anything else, its the internal extractor design on the newer P220's. You can polish your feed ramp which has been known to possibly fix the problem but may be a temporary fix. If you really want it truly fixed, you have to call Sig and send it in. They will replace or tweak the extractor and polish the feed ramp. This is why they switched to external extractors on these guns. But it's not just an extractor issue, the overall fit on these newer Sigs were and or not up to par. The lack of QC at Sig the last several years is very well known. You can go to sigforum.com and read tons of threads on this issue.