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  • ruchik
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 1189

    CZ trigger work

    I was recently looking over trigger options for my CZ. I've got some really small mitts (wear men's extra small gloves). I bought and installed the czcustom modified SA trigger with the overtravel and pretravel screws, but I couldn't make any pretravel adjustments due to the FPB in my CZ. I'm buying a set of the aluminum thin grips from czcustom, as holding the gun without any grips on it at all seems to work a lot better for me. But I'm wondering if there really isn't any other way to shorten the reach without removing the FPB and taking all the slack out of the adjustable trigger.

    I took a look at CGW's extreme reach reduction kit for CZ's. In the FAQ's, it states that the SA position of the trigger isn't moved or affected at all. But looking at the trigger itself, there looks like there's a set screw on the little "ledge" right in front of the trigger pin hole. It's right where the pretravel adjustment screw on the czcustom-modified SA trigger would be. Could I make a similar modification in that area on my stock trigger, wherein the trigger would simply sit further back due to the pretravel screw being there? I'm not sure what the differences are between the SAO trigger and the stock one, but there's a ton of free play and slack in the stock trigger in SA mode that isn't there with the SAO trigger installed. So to reiterate:

    1. I'd like to move the trigger set point in SA mode moved further backward. Factory modified czcustom trigger does not allow this, not enough free play due to FPB. Stock trigger has too much play that should be able to be adjusted out.

    2. I'd like to move the set point in SA backwards by adding a set screw to the front of the stock trigger, and would simply stop the trigger from moving too far forward. DA would be disabled, I know, but that doesn't matter to me.

    Is there anything that would prevent this from working, aside from the obvious fact that I'd need to leave enough room/slack for the FPB to reset? I'd like to leave the FPB in there as this will be my HD gun.
    Last edited by ruchik; 12-04-2011, 2:32 PM.
  • #2
    zfields
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2010
    • 13658

    this may sound a bit extreme, but what about heating and bending the trigger pad farther back. Not sure how much you could go though depending on where the trigger brakes.


    Beyond that, not much I can think of while keeping the FPB in place. May want to go ask this over on the CZ forms, there are some serious trigger guys over there.
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    • #3
      ruchik
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 1189

      It's really starting to sound like I should just go whole hog and take out the darned FPB altogether. I'm really hesitant to do this as it would be a HD gun, but I really want that shorter SA reach.

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      • #4
        zfields
        CGN Contributor
        • Aug 2010
        • 13658

        Not hard to remove, always an option. can always put it back in ya know.
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        • #5
          ruchik
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 1189

          Is the FPB even necessary in the CZ? I know the older models of CZ's, 1911's, and BHP's didn't have them, never seemed to be an issue. I'm just leery of removing it and using it for self defense purposes because, well...doo-doo happens.

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          • #6
            paul0660
            In Memoriam
            • Jul 2007
            • 15669

            David (Schmeky), of CGW, is on the CZ forum and is very helpful. He will tell you what is possible, and what you need, without pushing his products.
            Last edited by paul0660; 12-04-2011, 8:25 PM.
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            • #7
              Icypu
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 1051

              I have a CZ-40B and it has the thick normal trigger. I bought the CZ PCR serrated recurve trigger, and then I dremeled off the serrations. Since the reach is a little far for me, I am hoping this trigger will make it easier for me to shoot.

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              • #8
                railroader
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 3115

                Originally posted by ruchik
                Is the FPB even necessary in the CZ? I know the older models of CZ's, 1911's, and BHP's didn't have them, never seemed to be an issue. I'm just leery of removing it and using it for self defense purposes because, well...doo-doo happens.
                Actually the 85combat, the shadows and I think the the tactical sport don't have FPBs. As Zfields said you can take it out and put it back in pretty easily.

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                • #9
                  zfields
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 13658

                  IMO, if you aren't carrying it, its kept in a relatively safe spot, who needs a FPB to be honest.
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                  • #10
                    ruchik
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 1189

                    I actually carry it around LUCC as well for defensive purposes, which is why I am somehwat leery of removing the FPB. But then again, since it is unloaded to begin with, there shouldn't be a problem, correct?
                    Last edited by ruchik; 12-05-2011, 1:43 AM.

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                    • #11
                      himurax13
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 3895

                      Ruchik, where are you located? I have a CZ 75 Shadow with the Flat Trigger installed. I also have a P01 with the ERRK prototype and the firing pin block still intact. You can take a look and see how different they are.
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                      • #12
                        paul0660
                        In Memoriam
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 15669

                        who needs a FPB to be honest.
                        It makes a difference to me when decocking the safety models, which I do when carrying.
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                        • #13
                          zfields
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 13658

                          Originally posted by paul0660
                          It makes a difference to me when decocking the safety models, which I do when carrying.
                          You didnt take my post in context. If you are going to quote it at least respond to the full post.
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                          • #14
                            BAGunner
                            Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 482

                            Originally posted by paul0660
                            It makes a difference to me when decocking the safety models, which I do when carrying.
                            Don't you need to press on the trigger when decocking the safety models? How does the FPB help you in such case?
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                            • #15
                              zfields
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 13658

                              Originally posted by BAGunner
                              Don't you need to press on the trigger when decocking the safety models? How does the FPB help you in such case?
                              Pull slightly to release hammer, back off trigger, decock.

                              The FPB moves back into position, making so if the hammer strikes the FB, it will still be blocked.
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