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  • #16
    tacticalcity
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Aug 2006
    • 10916

    I am a Glock guy who also owns and loves a 1911. So perhaps my perspective and lessons learned will be helpful?

    Glocks and 1911s are alike in mostly a theoretical sense. They both have the same trigger pull from start to finish. They both have relatively short trigger resets. They are both relatively easy to master and learn on from a shooters perspective despite being radically different from a mechanical perspective.

    Your premise of trying to find a 1911 most like your Glocks is flawed. If there is such a thing, it would be a pretty crappy 1911. What makes the 1911 great is the things that make it unique. So abandon that plan immediately. Because it is a terrible one. Just buy the nicest 1911 you can afford. Preferrably used since it is your first. That way if you make the typical 1911 new guy mistakes, usually scratching the living hell out of the finish in about 10 different ways, well at least you didn't do it to a brand new pristine gun. Save the brand new top of the line 1911 for your second 1911 purchase.

    Most the scary stuff you've heard about 1911s is total FUD, or at least very biased opinions from guys who don't like them because they are jealous.

    So long as all you change are the grips, maybe add a magazine well, and maybe have night sights installed you won't have nightmare issues with your 1911. However if you try and change the slide stop to an extended slide stop, change out the internals, and swap out the safety (all which I tried to do) you will have functionality issues. Maybe not with each item, but eventually you will eff it up. Unlike on your Glock those parts are NOT drop-in on a 1911. So my recommendation is to buy your 1911 pretty much the way you want it right from the start. That way you won't be tempted to screw it up.

    Now this is when somebody comes along and argues with me. Screw them. Don't listen to them. If you want Glock reliability out of your 1911...don't go adding a boat load of aftermarket parts to it (beyond grips, sights, magwells, and stuff that won't impact functionality - and you would be surpised at what will impact funcationality). Don't let that scare you off. If you buy the gun the way you want it, it is completly a non-issue.

    Typical maintence that might (and I stress might) be needed on a 1911 is to ocassionally adjust the tension on your internal extractor, and to polish various surfaces every now and again if you plan on shooting something other than ball ammo. Neither is a big deal. There are youtube videos on how to do both and they are extremely see-spot-run. So again, don't let that scare you off. if you can break down your Glock and clean it, then you are more than capable of doing this stuff too.

    Now for the important stuff...

    As much as I love my Glocks...and they have their undeniable strengths...there is NOTHING like shooting a 1911. Even an entry level 1911. The trigger/action is AMAZING. You are good with a Glock you will be GREAT with a 1911. From a stricktly shooting perspective, capacity and other issues aside, they are the best gun out there bar none. You won't regret your purchase.

    Something to keep in mind with the 45ACP if you are used to a smaller caliber. Until now you've been spoiled. You could relax your elbow and wrist more than you should and not had malfunctions. Basically you could have crappy fundamentals and still be OK. You can't do that with a 45. If the gun comes back during recoil too much, the slide won't be able to do it's job and you will get malfunctions. So tighten up your elbow and wrist, and you will not have malfunctions. Don't let that discourage you. It is super EASY to do. It's just something most new 1911/45 owners run into and don't realize what is going on. So I'm telling you in advanced. It's not the gun...it's you being too wimpy with your elbow and wrist. Yet again, don't let that scare you. I'm a pretty wimpy out of shape dude. So if I can do it so can you.
    Last edited by tacticalcity; 10-14-2011, 12:24 PM.

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    • #17
      shinbone
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      • Dec 2009
      • 281

      Lol Drider. You should go for the hat trick. Make your next one "I bought a Sig but now its rusting???? Why!?!"
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      • #18
        iBkickinit
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        • Jul 2007
        • 462

        (If) You are good with a glock you will be GREAT with a 1911.
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        • #19
          infernl
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 892

          Originally posted by Freq18Hz
          ...but the 1911 has been around since 1911 for a reason.
          I'm so sick of hearing this moronic statement... and I don't even have an opinion on the issue. 1911s have been around a long time, we get it. x 1,000,000.

          But its not the SAME 1911s that have been around since 1911...

          Its like saying my Grandpa is better because he's older...

          or

          My Model T can outrun your Ferrari...

          Ridiculous statements - all.
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          • #20
            JeremyS
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 2014

            Yeah dooode, just get the Glock 1911





            When I buy a 1911, it'll be a Dan Wesson Valor. I don't think they can be beat by anything near its general price point. I think the only way I'd be happier is spending at least twice as much for a custom SVI.
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            • #21
              tacticalcity
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Aug 2006
              • 10916

              Originally posted by infernl
              I'm so sick of hearing this moronic statement... and I don't even have an opinion on the issue. 1911s have been around a long time, we get it. x 1,000,000.

              But its not the SAME 1911s that have been around since 1911...

              Its like saying my Grandpa is better because he's older...

              or

              My Model T can outrun your Ferrari...

              Ridiculous statements - all.
              You are missing the point and getting hung up on irrelvancy. Yes, there have been improvements and the gun has evolved as new technolgy and market trends have emerged, but the same core design is there. The same key features and principles that make a 1911 great have remained. And anytime those are changed it is met with a boat load of hostility...just looks at the backlash the entire Paraordinance brand gets from the "true" 1911 fans for their departures on a few models.

              So the statement is true. The 1911 has remained a favorite of shooters in the know since 1911 for a reason. Sure, it has evolved as new technologies have come out but is has also remained remarkably the same for a gun design that has been around for 100 years. The key things that made it great back then have remained the same and are what make it great today.

              Your argument is a lot like the "(h)ow many generations does it take to reach Glock perfection" remark I heard/read recently here on Calguns. Just because they are keeping up with market trends by adding a front rail for a tactical light and changing the texture of the grip and adding finger grooves and backstraps doesn't change the key design features that a make a Glock great. It's pretty much still the same gun with a few improvements to keep up with industry innovations and market demands. It is still a Glock.
              Last edited by tacticalcity; 10-14-2011, 12:19 PM.

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              • #22
                JeremyS
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 2014

                I have a ~450 year old samurai sword in my closet. Even new ones are made with the same design. That said, I'd still rather use the most modernly-designed handgun for HD.
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                • #23
                  tacticalcity
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 10916

                  Originally posted by JeremyS
                  I have a ~450 year old samurai sword in my closet. Even new ones are made with the same design. That said, I'd still rather use the most modernly-designed handgun for HD.
                  Might not be the best example. The went to some pretty far extremes back in fuedal Japan to make those samuri swords just right. The folded the steel hundreds if not thousands of times to get it super strong. The ones made in machine shops and meant to be hung on walls and not used in battle are not as strong. You can buy a modern sword made the traditional way...but it will run you upwards of $5K. Sorry, sold swords for a while. Had to learn a lot about them. Not much of a market for them compared to firearms.

                  Some of the modern 1911s are manufactured with far superior methods and attention to detail to the orginal 1911s. Some are made pretty much the same.

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                  • #24
                    tacticalcity
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 10916

                    Originally posted by JeremyS
                    Yeah dooode, just get the Glock 1911





                    When I buy a 1911, it'll be a Dan Wesson Valor. I don't think they can be beat by anything near its general price point. I think the only way I'd be happier is spending at least twice as much for a custom SVI.
                    Gotta love photoshop. While it will never happen in reality, I would be among the first to by a 1911 made by Glock.

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                    • #25
                      InGrAM
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 3699

                      It is like comparing a dremel to a set of fine gunsmithing files. Completely different but they both can do the same job.

                      But for "appearance" and reliability the SigArms GSR or Sig Sauer 1911 rail comes to mind

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                      • #26
                        billybob_jcv
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 1507

                        This has got to be one of the most odd questions I have ever read in a forum...

                        There are only 2 possible answers to this question:

                        1) None of them.
                        2) All of them.

                        Take your pick, both answer are equally correct (or incorrect if you prefer).
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                        • #27
                          Iknownot
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 2174

                          Originally posted by drider
                          I hope this won't be a flame thread on this vs. that thread. I want an honest first hand experience on which 1911 do you think is Glock alike. The reason I say Glock alike is, Glocks are the only pistols I have strictly owned so I need a 1911 that has similar toughness and ruggedness characteristics. I plan by the end of the year I will get a career and I told myself once I get a career a 1911 will be in my safe.
                          As others have commented, the whole idea of wanting one for the other is a bit strange as they are completely different. Either you want one, or the other, but wanting one to be like the other, I'm not sure what the point of that is.

                          If the question was meant more along the lines of "what is the toughest 1911, because that is what I like about glocks", I can understand the question, but I still find it a bit odd.

                          After all, the 1911 was designed as a military arm, adopted as one, and has made it through 80 or so years of 4 major wars and other military actions.

                          How tough does it need to be looking at that historical fact?

                          Aside from that, is there really any modern hand gun made by any of the big companies that isn't tough enough for what any of us are doing at the range?

                          I haven't seen one yet.

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                          • #28
                            SantaCabinetguy
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 15137

                            Originally posted by JeremyS
                            Yeah dooode, just get the Glock 1911


                            I was waiting for someone to post this!
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                            • #29
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                              • May 2010
                              • 4122

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                              • #30
                                BamBam-31
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                                • Dec 2005
                                • 5318

                                Your question is....illogical, Captain. (arches one eyebrow)
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