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  • #16
    Mr.1904
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 3310

    Originally posted by RollingCode3
    i willing to bet you were ''limp wristing"
    yup
    "Then there are sheepdogs. The sheepdogs are the bastions of safety. The sheepdog lives solely to protect the flock and confront the wolf. They live for the opportunity to be called to duty to protect the innocent. The sheepdog has fangs and the propensity for violence but hopes that he will not have to resort to it. However, he lives for that day when he will be able to use his warrior skills and mindset to keep the wolf from harming the sheep."

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    • #17
      junkit_boy
      Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 162

      Originally posted by Mr.1904
      yup
      the ol Lamar Syndrome

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      • #18
        hybridatsun350
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2007
        • 5336

        I'm going to assume you're getting failures to feed as you've mentioned magazine springs. The ONLY time my Glocks jam is when I let someone else shoot them, and they limp wrist it. Glocks are more sensitive to limp wristing than some other guns. Get a nice high hold on it, and you'll be golden.
        Dom

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        • #19
          itsmeeddie
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 2

          I purchased a Glock35 put 100 rounds thru with 2 jams, I added alittle lube and went thru another 200 rounds no jams.......

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          • #20
            FNH5-7
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2009
            • 9407

            Was this a Gen4 G17?
            Originally posted by FalconLair
            I weep for my country and what it is becoming.

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            • #21
              ChrisTKHarris
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 4203

              I'm surprised no one has mentioned that you might be limp wristing.

              Don't let the name fool you...

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              • #22
                dvsdev
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 527

                Originally posted by tacticalcity
                Possible problem 1: The magazine is not fully seating. You are not supposed to top off your magazines download a 10-Rd magazine by 1-2 rounds and a hicap by at least 3. Doesn't matter if they are new or old magazines. That goes for all semi autos. The magazine can be inserted and even lock into place, and still not be seated properly which causes Failure To Feed issues. Meaning the gun jams with the round not fully chambered or the round just doesn't chamber at all and the slide closes on an empty chamber. The first is more common than the later but I've seen both.
                I would bet that this is most likely the problem.

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                • #23
                  Caladain
                  Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 383

                  Originally posted by tacticalcity
                  Possible problem 1: The magazine is not fully seating. You are not supposed to top off your magazines download a 10-Rd magazine by 1-2 rounds and a hicap by at least 3. Doesn't matter if they are new or old magazines. That goes for all semi autos. .
                  FUD FUD FUD. You shouldn't download glock mags, 30 round Pmags, or any other modern hicap mag/restricted mag. Present proof please of why this is necessary beyond handwaving.

                  Originally posted by tacticalcity
                  Possible problem #3: Cheap ammo can cause all kinds of issues. Make sure to use factory new from a reliable brand. Most likely however, both problems 1 and 2 are the issue.
                  His glock should eat any factory ammo he throws at it. Russian, cheap, brass, alum, steel, FMJ, HP, etc. This is not a nickle-plated sissy pistol. If a modern semi-auto gun (Glock, Sig, XD) isn't eating anything factory you feed it, and it's not mag related/severe limp-wristing, you have a seriously wrong situation.

                  Work the problems out one at a time. Most glock-mags are GTG out of the box, but it's possible you have a bad one. Borrow a known-good one and see if that fixes your problem.

                  Shoot off a bench, bracing the gun to make sure you're not limp-wristing it or some other such non-sense. If you have a known good mag and the thing is still malfunctioning on a bench with factory ammo, contact glock and see what they suggest.

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                  • #24
                    robcoe
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 8685

                    Originally posted by gmacd1177
                    Hi,

                    I just purchased my first Glock 17 and took it to the range last night. One problem I had was constant jamming. This should not be a problem with a brand new handgun so I wanted to ask about it. I noticed that it happened more in the beginning and when I loaded the magazine to capacity (10 rounds). I wonder if this is merely because the magazine spring is still tight but I do not recall this ever being a problem with my Sig P226 (.40cal) which shot just fine out of the box.

                    Any information would be greatly appreciated.
                    Some details on the jam would help out, Failure to feed, failure to fire, failure to extract, failure to go into battery, double feeding, ect

                    Never owned a glock, so I am not sure how well this applies to them, but the only time I ever had a problem like this was when I took my Ruger P90 out the first time without cleaning it first. My advice would be to clean and lube it, then use some snap caps to cycle it and see if it still jams.
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                    • #25
                      gmacd1177
                      Junior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 22

                      Thank you all for the information so far. To further clarify what is happening the next round is not chambering and sometimes will end up at a weird angle. This required me to drop the magazine and pull the slide (which was already half open) to release the jammed bullet. The gun was ejecting just fine and empty casings were flying like they should.

                      Since many are suggesting limp wristing and grip would it be any different than the .45 caliber glock? I fired 150 rounds through it no problem two weeks ago when I rented one. I purchased the 9mm since the ammo is a lot cheaper.

                      One last thought is about the ammo. I was firing new in box factory ammo but it was also 3-5 years old. Is this enough aging to cause any problems?

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                      • #26
                        Turo
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2009
                        • 5066

                        Originally posted by gmacd1177
                        Thank you all for the information so far. To further clarify what is happening the next round is not chambering and sometimes will end up at a weird angle. This required me to drop the magazine and pull the slide (which was already half open) to release the jammed bullet. The gun was ejecting just fine and empty casings were flying like they should.

                        Since many are suggesting limp wristing and grip would it be any different than the .45 caliber glock? I fired 150 rounds through it no problem two weeks ago when I rented one. I purchased the 9mm since the ammo is a lot cheaper.

                        One last thought is about the ammo. I was firing new in box factory ammo but it was also 3-5 years old. Is this enough aging to cause any problems?
                        I've had a similar issue when using a cheap (KCI) brand magazine. The feed lips of the magazine were too wide, and it was causing the rounds to slip out of the top front of the magazine and end up pointing left and up.

                        I'm assuming the magazines you are using are factory, but have to checked to make sure they are 9mm mags and not .40S&W? They are very close, but can cause issues like you're describing when the .40 mags are used for 9mm.
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                        • #27
                          gmacd1177
                          Junior Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 22

                          Originally posted by Turo
                          I've had a similar issue when using a cheap (KCI) brand magazine. The feed lips of the magazine were too wide, and it was causing the rounds to slip out of the top front of the magazine and end up pointing left and up.

                          I'm assuming the magazines you are using are factory, but have to checked to make sure they are 9mm mags and not .40S&W? They are very close, but can cause issues like you're describing when the .40 mags are used for 9mm.
                          The magazine says 9mm on it and is the one sold with the gun. I will try different hand grips on it the next time I go to the range to see if that makes a difference.

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                          • #28
                            Lumpia is sarap!®
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 2267

                            Are you holding it like this?
                            sigpic

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                            • #29
                              gmacd1177
                              Junior Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 22

                              Are you holding it like this?
                              No, I usually hold it a little higher than that and my left hand is usually more on the side and not underneath my right hand.

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                              • #30
                                InGrAM
                                Veteran Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 3699

                                Are you holding it like this?
                                It is called the "Cup & Saucer" grip. It is a horrible way to hold a handgun. NTM, It makes the shooter performing it look like a complete newbie.

                                This is just as bad......


                                No disrespect to Mr. Eastwood.
                                Last edited by InGrAM; 09-25-2011, 11:47 PM.

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