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  • gmacd1177
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 22

    First time glock shooting problem

    Hi,

    I just purchased my first Glock 17 and took it to the range last night. One problem I had was constant jamming. This should not be a problem with a brand new handgun so I wanted to ask about it. I noticed that it happened more in the beginning and when I loaded the magazine to capacity (10 rounds). I wonder if this is merely because the magazine spring is still tight but I do not recall this ever being a problem with my Sig P226 (.40cal) which shot just fine out of the box.

    Any information would be greatly appreciated.
  • #2
    Freq18Hz
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 1243

    Everyone is going to ask you if you are shooting reloads, or boxed ammunition, if so what type etc.

    I had my first jam with a Glock. That being said, I haven't had a Glock jam since, but I don't shoot them often.

    -Freq

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    • #3
      RollingCode3
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 3221

      i willing to bet you were ''limp wristing"
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      • #4
        aermotor
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        • Apr 2009
        • 2566

        I shoot my Glocks very often and never have issues with reloads or factory ammo. We need more details to help you out.

        • What type of ammo are you using: Reloads or Factory? FMJ, Lead, Hollow Point, Round Nose, Flat Nose, Wad Cutters etc?

        • Are you using genuine Glock factory magazines? Does it happen with different magazines or just one?

        • When are the james occurring: First round, last round, middle of the mag?


        I'm not sure you can limp wrist a Glock 17 (of course someone can argue it) but that seems very unlikely, though plausible I suppose if ammo/mags checks out.

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        • #5
          nimbus
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 674

          I'm gonna go with limp wristing, too. Hold it high and grip it firmly like a good handshake.

          Last week, I let a brand new shooter shoot my Glock 34 and it jammed (FTFeed) for the first time after 2000 rounds due to him not holding tight and high enough.

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          • #6
            Tango_Whiskey
            Junior Member
            CGN Contributor
            • Jul 2009
            • 85

            You need to have a good solid hold on the grip as high up on the grip as you can.
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            • #7
              mikeyr
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 1554

              did you clean it before going shooting ? I did not clean my Beretta before its first shot and jammed like crazy, after cleaning no more jams.

              Too many people first think of limp wristing when I am not convinced there is such a thing, clean the gun, lube it up properly and it should shoot fine.
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              • #8
                510GUY
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 1362

                Limp wrist shooting I bett also.

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                • #9
                  gmacd1177
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 22

                  I was using boxed factory ammunition in the factory magazines. It seemed completely random when it would jam sometimes in the beginning and sometimes in the middle. It seemed to occur more when I fully loaded the magazine to 10 rounds. but I had about 10-12 jams over 200 rounds fired. This was my first time ever shooting a 9mm glock but I have 3 other 9mm handguns that I have fired before. It was quite strange since I have only ever once had a gun jam on me once before.

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                  • #10
                    Slim///
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 966

                    Have somebody else shoot it and see if the problem still occurs.

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                    • #11
                      Bill Carson
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 3574

                      Could be the ammo. My buddy and I were at the range two weeks ago and he had bought some 9mm ammo from wal-mart ( I forget what brand). That ammo jammed on every mag and the older ammo he had from 15 years ago did not jam at all.

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                      • #12
                        chiselchst
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                        • Oct 2008
                        • 2025

                        What type of "jam'? Fail to go in to battery, FTE, etc?

                        Folks might better be able to help with more info. Pics?
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                        • #13
                          bsg
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 25954

                          Originally posted by Slim///
                          Have somebody else shoot it and see if the problem still occurs.

                          good suggestion; have somebody else shoot it who has experience with the Glock. that can rule out the simplest potential cause of the problem.

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                          • #14
                            locosway
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 11346

                            Originally posted by mikeyr
                            did you clean it before going shooting ? I did not clean my Beretta before its first shot and jammed like crazy, after cleaning no more jams.

                            Too many people first think of limp wristing when I am not convinced there is such a thing, clean the gun, lube it up properly and it should shoot fine.
                            You don't want to clean the Glock for about 500 rounds or so. You want the lube that they ship it with to penetrate into the metal. You can add a little more lube to the barrel hood, but other than that just shoot it.

                            Originally posted by Slim///
                            Have somebody else shoot it and see if the problem still occurs.
                            This is what I would do. Out of the 5 Glocks I currently own, and the other two I've sold, I've never once had a jam on any of them. I've never had a FTF or FTE on thousands of rounds. Most issues are either caused by limp writing the gun, or by a bad spring. If the brass is hitting you in the face, find someone to teach you how to shoot. If the brass is being ejected in a normal fashion, have an armorer inspect and shoot the gun or call up Glock and they'll have you send it to them.
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                            • #15
                              tacticalcity
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 10916

                              "Jam" doesn't tell us anything. We need specifics. Since you don't know how to tell us what type of malfunction it was, I am going to assume you do not have professional training. Which strongly suggests you are doing something wrong. Wrong stance, wrong grip, wrong something. 99.99% of the time when something goes wrong it is not the gun it is the shooter.

                              Possible problem 1: The magazine is not fully seating. You are not supposed to top off your magazines download a 10-Rd magazine by 1-2 rounds and a hicap by at least 3. Doesn't matter if they are new or old magazines. That goes for all semi autos. The magazine can be inserted and even lock into place, and still not be seated properly which causes Failure To Feed issues. Meaning the gun jams with the round not fully chambered or the round just doesn't chamber at all and the slide closes on an empty chamber. The first is more common than the later but I've seen both.

                              Possible problem #2: You are bending your elbow too much, and relaxing your wrist too much. So when you fire, there is not enough pressure from you to hold the frame firmly enough in place. So when the slide comes back to chamber the round, the gun and the round are coming back with it. It can't finish the job. This can lead to both the above failure to feed issues as well as double feeds.

                              Possible problem #3: Cheap ammo can cause all kinds of issues. Make sure to use factory new from a reliable brand. Most likely however, both problems 1 and 2 are the issue.

                              SOLUTION: Take a handgun course. You can find one in your backyard by searching the COMPETITION, ACTION SHOOTING, and TRAINING SECTION here on Calguns.net. A one day course will fix you right up.

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