Press Checking

[Sturnovik]

I don't see the irony?

Just someone claiming that 4" groups at 25 yards with a rifle is accurate.

He didnt have a round seated and ready to fire when he pulled the trigger but in any case, this thread blew up alot more than I thought it would!

[BamBam-31]

Well, no offense to anyone in particular, but the assurance with which ignorant statements were posted in this thread was pretty alarming in and of itself. For a topic as basic and simple as a press check, no less.

Although the piling on was probably unnecessary, at least the record was set straight.

[Dhena81]

I Press check

I like having FCS on my slide it really makes it much easier to do so a light actually helps me also.

[p1choco]

during an admin reload, you press check to see if the round seated in the chamber BEFORE the gun fight, not during. Tap, rack, bang (like you stated) is correct procedure during the gun fight.

remember to check if you one in the hole before running and gunning. simple.

Simple indeed. But you misunderstand. You press check before the gunfight. We are on the same page with that one. If you reload, you are already in a gunfight. Weather or not you emptied the mag it's always a good idea to reload. Do I still need to press check? No. Can I? Yes. Would I if I was in a situation where I was in the process of using my gun? No. Remember, I'm talking about everyday carry stateside. Re-read my statement where I question press checking DURING a gun fight. "In a real gun fight (state side) why the fuch would I press check after reloading while keeping my eyes facing the enemy downrange??????"

[p1choco]

if you are doing a reload on the line, I would say a press check would be an extraneous manipulation- if you KNOW you loaded a fresh mag into the gun (rifle or pistol) and chambered a round, unless you suffer from memory loss, you know the weapon is indeed hot. If the bolt or slide doesnt go fully into battery, you should also KNOW that there is a feed problem- typically the response to a type 1 or 2 malfunction would be to rack the slide and rechamber - noting the battery condition, and continue shooting.

if the weapon continues to malfunction remedial action is required. and the weapon should be safed, magazine removed, and the round in the action ejected (and chamber visually inspected) to determine the cause of the malfunction.

in real world scenarios, if you were in a gun fight, the general thought is that if the threat is beyond 50yds you might be able to take remedial action, but closer in would require a transition to a secondary weapon....

Another one. Did you not read? What is this on the line talk? I'm talking real life. Press check has already been conducted before placing gun in holster. Please tell me you are being sarcastic and not a graduate from VIPER or something. I stand by what I say. Tap rack bang. If you need to do it twice, RELOAD. If that doesn't work, transition to your back up pistol if you happen to have one or create as much distance as you can and fight another day.

[Cokebottle]

Ya, main thing with the round getting pushed into the casing is from the nose of the round being jammed into the feedramp as it is pushed out of the magazine.
There's not enough force on a press check to move the bullet

[Cokebottle]

At 1:40... sheer stupidity.

Moving the slide back by gripping the muzzle with his palm in front of the barrel?

I'm going to have to search for more of his videos to figure out who he is and avoid his advice.

[Cokebottle]

As for press checking a pistol, it's a common term in the industry.

It's a part of the safe handling demonstration.

I'm not sure when it was added... I didn't do it when I bought my XD9, but I've done it on the last 4 handguns that I've bought from Turners.

[PRCABR4Christ]

While I agree with 99% of what you are saying, I must admit that I'm quite surprised that someone with such thorough knowledge on the subject actually thinks that the extractor strips rounds from the magazine!

Ok, the extractor doesn't "strip" the round, I worded it a bit off...the magazine pushes the round underneath the extractor, and the force of the slide strips the round off...good call

[cmaynes]

Another one. Did you not read? What is this on the line talk? I'm talking real life. Press check has already been conducted before placing gun in holster. Please tell me you are being sarcastic and not a graduate from VIPER or something. I stand by what I say. Tap rack bang. If you need to do it twice, RELOAD. If that doesn't work, transition to your back up pistol if you happen to have one or create as much distance as you can and fight another day.

I dont know what your problem is- I said on the line- as in firing line... If you are shooting and reload a press check is a stupid waste of energy- you are not holstering, you are shooting. end of comment. Perhaps you should read better.

being in a fight, you do the regular drill on a type one or two malfunction- if that fails swap magazines and continue.

[PRCABR4Christ]

FWIW, at the shop, I not only check the chamber visually but I do a tactile check as well, we have idiots all the time bringing in guns they want us to work on that are loaded (eeek!)

[Cokebottle]

FWIW, at the shop, I not only check the chamber visually but I do a tactile check as well, we have idiots all the time bringing in guns they want us to work on that are loaded (eeek!)

Slight difference.

"Press Check" is verifying that it's loaded, via visual check of the chamber.

You're talking about opening the action and visually and physically confirming that it is unloaded.

[PRCABR4Christ]

Slight difference.

"Press Check" is verifying that it's loaded, via visual check of the chamber.

You're talking about opening the action and visually and physically confirming that it is unloaded.

that was just an add on, hence "FWIW"

[l8apex]

Looks like this thread has become a ball of thread and spaghetti with all the 'semantics' of what press checking is and isn't. Frankly, it is pretty simple. You want to verify a round is chambered. Whether you call that a press check, visual check, or a oompa loompa the idea is to verify a round.

More than often is this world of 'tactics' words, semantics, are mumbled out with religious fervor in so much that the point or idea is lost. We really need to cut this sh**t out so we can focus on quality discussions here in CalGuns in stead of picking pepper out of fly sh**t. Some may think that it's 'cute' to play an internet SME [subject matter expert], but for those in know-it's pretty irritating. Like the old saying, "It's better to thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

With that out the way, I do PRESS Check. Do not depend on the LCI [loaded chamber indicator] or your memory to verify a round. And NO, it will not damage the round.

[Mr310]

Like the old saying, "It's better to thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Ah, Mark Twain.