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  • #61
    FourLoko
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 2426

    Originally posted by Peter W Bush
    What??

    Learn how to perform a correct press check. It's quite simple.
    yes, we failed to take note of his weak, child-like hands

    only takes a quick squeeze to make the space to look into the chamber

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    • #62
      hollowpoint67
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 1452

      you guys made me realize how important press checking is but my only question now is how does one press check a wheel gun?

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      • #63
        slick_711
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2006
        • 4400

        Originally posted by hollowpoint67
        you guys made me realize how important press checking is but my only question now is how does one press check a wheel gun?
        Well, according to one of the Colt Python threads a few weeks back, CK_32 has never heard of a wheel gun and sees no need for them, so why would you want to press check one?

        Open the cylinder, count to six (or 5,7,8 etc), close the cylinder. Alternatively, open the loading gate, pull hammer to half cock, rotate cylinder six times, close loading gate, carefully lower hammer.

        This thread has been very entertaining, thanks guys.


        ETA: Much like many other Calgunners, LEO, MIL, or properly armed civilians, I carry a gun nearly every day. One of two depending on how I am dressed. The one I'm not carrying resides on a shelf slightly hidden, but not secured, in my closet. Needless to say, when I put a gun on in the morning it gets press checked. It's highly unlikely that it won't be loaded, because I leave them loaded. However, they were out of my direct control for a period of time and I don't live alone. If I'm going to carry it to protect myself, I intend to be certain of it's condition. A young man that has never used a gun outside of the range, nor needed to trust his life to one cannot be expected to fully grasp this concept.
        Last edited by slick_711; 09-07-2011, 1:36 PM.

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        • #64
          SIGSHOOTR
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 657

          Originally posted by slick_711
          If I'm going to carry it to protect myself, I intend to be certain of it's condition. A young man that has never used a gun outside of the range, nor needed to trust his life to one cannot be expected to fully grasp this concept.
          Amen.
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          We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
          For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
          Shall be my brother-- Henry V

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          • #65
            MoBait
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 539

            When I'm sitting in the duck blind, I chamber/press/visual/tampon check constantly. On numerous occasions after firing and reloading I have gotten up to fire on a bird to only hear a click. When I come home and take a handgun and shotgun out of the safe I always do a press check to make sure I'm good to go. The only time one needs to physically feel a chambered round is when it is too dark to see brass.

            CK, you claimed to not know how to do a physical chamber check on a pistol, if you learn how to take apart a 1911 you will know how to do it.

            And please don't tell people who do not see eye to eye with you to f off. That is offensive. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and people are allowed to argue against others' opinions.

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            • #66
              Peter W Bush
              Calguns Supreme Overlord
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jan 2009
              • 4727

              Originally posted by MoBait
              When I'm sitting in the duck blind, I chamber/press/visual/tampon check constantly. On numerous occasions after firing and reloading I have gotten up to fire on a bird to only hear a click. When I come home and take a handgun and shotgun out of the safe I always do a press check to make sure I'm good to go. The only time one needs to physically feel a chambered round is when it is too dark to see brass.

              CK, you claimed to not know how to do a physical chamber check on a pistol, if you learn how to take apart a 1911 you will know how to do it.

              And please don't tell people who do not see eye to eye with you to f off. That is offensive. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and people are allowed to argue against others' opinions.
              Oh man your post just got me excited for duck season. I not only check the chamber when I'm in the blind but also the magazine. Once, and only once, did I pull the trigger on a duck a heard a click. It was maybe 15-20 yards away. My buddy shot it and made sure to laugh at me. After that, I will ALWAYS check a firearm, whether or not I think it's loaded.

              CK- A press check takes less than a damn second. How do you think that it is not worth the time or the effort? Your head must hurt from all of the
              Will trade liquor/wine/beer for parts and accesories and ammo! PM me. Dont drink n shoot. Offer void where prohibited. Must be 21 or older, etc. etc.

              Originally posted by TURBOELKY
              Well, glad you got the kit anyways, I'm sure I'll fondle it a little in the near future..... oh God, that's going to be in somebody's signature....:D
              Originally posted by TURBOELKY
              put me in line, but if Peter W. Bush takes it, I need to be removed from his Signature line.......:D

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              • #67
                The DRis
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 593

                Originally posted by CK_32
                Press checking a pistol isn't nessasary. If anything it's stupid because press checking a rifle is ok because it has a linger case. Everytime I press check my glock I almost eject it everytime and a few times I have half ejected the round and end up with a FTE problem. I think it's a bad habbit to get into especially if your in a life or death or battle field situation. Double tappin the msg then racking the slide should be a good enough sign for a round picked up. And if your stressed and have adrenaline going it's not going to happen. And that's why a lot of pistols have chamber indicators.. Or external extractors should be enough to show you if you have a round or don't.

                And with a pistol you don't really get much to check if anything. I keep press checking to my rifles.
                Ummm... Your doing it wrong?

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                • #68
                  The DRis
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 593

                  Originally posted by CK_32
                  snip....
                  And again I got specific about the term is because mr jr member figured hed challange me on not knowing what a press check is. So I let him know exactly where the actual term came from and got technical about it to shut him up and show I do know a little something every now and then.

                  snip...
                  Wow, because the member status of someone is what tells you how much they know. Guy could be Larry Vickers for all you know who just joined and you want to call him out because a dumb forum software says he doesn't have enough posts or time to be a veteran or senior member? WTF?

                  By that same reasoning I'm a Senior member and so naturally know more than you.

                  Originally posted by ZombieTactics
                  Maybe I can learn something. I've only been shooting for about 35+ years and been regularly in the company of acknowledged experts, but what do I or they know? Perhaps I/they have it all wrong, but I've engaged in more than just casual study and training for longer than you have been alive, and I have never once heard the term "presscheck" defined specifically as a tactile technique used only with rifles. You'll also pardon me for having a bit of skepticism when someone barely old enough to buy a handgun deigns to hold himself out as some kind of expert.

                  The "press" part of presscheck comes from the practice - with an original 1911 pistol design - of pressing the spring-plug on the front of the gun to visually check for the presence of a chambered round. This is well known as being the historical origin of the term. Browning himself is known to have described it as such. It was considered a standard term and technique for the 1911 manual of arms. It had nothing to do with pressing or touching the actual cartridge. It originally had nothing to do with a rifle of any kind. This is not a matter of opinion, but a historical fact.

                  You really can't press the plug anymore on most handguns because of full-length rods, and it was sortof a dumb technique - safety-wise - in the first place. Nonetheless it has since universally come to mean almost any technique whereby you expose the chamber enough to do a visual and/or tactile confirmation of status. This is how the term is used at FrontSight, Gunsite, Tactical Response, Suarez International, Thunder Ranch, Sig Academy, Vickers Tactical and and by a whole host of internationally known and acknowledged experts.

                  For the record: You did not "get technical" about anything, but rather restated your raw opinion more directly and forcefully. If by some chance the information I've noted above is indeed inaccurate, I'd quite sincerely appreciate you actually getting technical ... reveal the sources upon which your opinion is based and school us all accordingly. I - for one - am open to instruction from qualified sources. I'd like you to explain how John Moses Browning didn't understand a term which originated with a handgun of his own design.

                  (Nice YouTube channel, BTW ... subscribed)
                  Well said.

                  Originally posted by sirsloth
                  Oh snap he got told.
                  Originally posted by paul0660
                  He won't know until he climbs out of the deep hole he dug.
                  Stop, it hurts I'm laughing so hard.

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                  • #69
                    NorCal Einstein
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1242

                    Originally posted by tonyxcom
                    Never argue with a flat biller.
                    Hhahahahaha

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                    • #70
                      ZombieTactics
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 3691

                      I would not be too quick to "pile on". Young men often need to be schooled harshly, but just as quickly welcomed warmly back into the tribe. In this way they are refined, rather than crushed, and become strong allies.

                      Jeeez ... did I actually just write that? What am I, Master Po or something all of a sudden?
                      Last edited by ZombieTactics; 09-07-2011, 4:36 PM.
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                      • #71
                        mugiwara
                        Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 236

                        i was always taught if u dont press check ur pistol u could have to do a failure drill in mozambique.

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                        • #72
                          hkdad
                          Veteran Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 3112

                          Originally posted by ZombieTactics
                          I would not be too quick to "pile on". Young men often needed to be schooled harshly, but just as quickly welcomed warmly back into the tribe. In this way they are refined, rather than crushed, and become strong allies.

                          Jeeez ... did I just write that? What am I, Master Po or something all of a sudden?
                          I agree! Even young Jedi needed better training and advice.... After that he came back strong!
                          May the force be with you!
                          ˙ǝuılƃıs ʎɯ uı ʇnd oʇ ɹǝʌǝlɔ ƃuıɥʇʎuɐ ɟo ʞuıɥʇ ʇ,uɐɔ I

                          "I see an empty magazine, I think it needs to be loaded." -hickok45

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                          • #73
                            Mr310
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 5692

                            Haha I had no idea this thread was gonna be so controversial.
                            WARNING: This post may contain material offensive to those who lack wit, humor, common sense and/or supporting factual or anecdotal evidence. All statements and assertions contained herein may be subject to but not limited to: irony, metaphor, allusion and dripping sarcasm.

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                            • #74
                            • #75
                              MoBait
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 539

                              Originally posted by hkdad
                              I agree! Even young Jedi needed better training and advice.... After that he came back strong!
                              May the force be with you!
                              I disagree, we all saw what happened to Anakin.

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