Its worth a shot...AR Pistol

[mif_slim]

So, a buddy brought this up and got me thinking(he was thinking the same too). Would it be possible to throw a hammerhead grip, pin the comp/FH and take off BB on a AR pistol and make it into a "regular" pistol??

or is it concider a "sbr"?


was it worth a shot? I think so. LOL.

[DT556]

No the magazine resides outside the pistol grip.

[mif_slim]

Boooo, whats the use of registering it as a pistol!! grr... these laws are wack. LOL.

[morrcarr67]

Boooo, whats the use of registering it as a pistol!! grr... these laws are wack. LOL.

Be sure to remember that come voting time.

[MTG Firearms]

No the magazine resides outside the pistol grip.

This^^^^

[MTG Firearms]

Be sure to remember that come voting time.

And this^^^^^

[Exile Machine]

No the magazine resides outside the pistol grip.

I'm not weighing in one way or another on the legality of the proposed configuration but the Hammerhead's not a pistol grip. Philosophical question: How can the magazine reside outside the pistol grip if the weapon has no pistol grip?

Hammerhead also has a threaded rear portion into which you could screw a buttstock. Would this be a possible federal constructive possession situation if you have a loose AR buttstock lying around?

Be careful out there. I'd say stick to the intended use of the Hammerhead as a rifle stock adapter or grip. Though my wife is using one as a parking indicator in the garage. Yes, we've got one hanging from the ceiling by a string in there. When it hits the right place on the windshield, she knows she's got the tactical minivan parked correctly.

-Mark

[bjl333]

I'm not weighing in one way or another on the legality of the proposed configuration but the Hammerhead's not a pistol grip. Philosophical question: How can the magazine reside outside the pistol grip if the weapon has no pistol grip?

Hammerhead also has a threaded rear portion into which you could screw a buttstock. Would this be a possible federal constructive possession situation if you have a loose AR buttstock lying around?

Be careful out there. I'd say stick to the intended use of the Hammerhead as a rifle stock adapter or grip. Though my wife is using one as a parking indicator in the garage. Yes, we've got one hanging from the ceiling by a string in there. When it hits the right place on the windshield, she knows she's got the tactical minivan parked correctly.

-Mark

Mark,
How about a MM or a grip fin!! Then it isn't a pistol grip right?!?!
bjl

[mif_slim]

^ that's what I'm saying! It's not considered a pistol grip anymore so why would it be illegal?

Btw, this is just for discussion and intended for people to actually do it.

[mif_slim]

I'll edit when I get to a computer.

I meant NOT Intended!*

[leelaw]

Philosophical question: How can the magazine reside outside the pistol grip if the weapon has no pistol grip?

I don't think "pistol grip" is defined for that section, so philosophical question:

When is a grip on a pistol not a pistol grip?

[blazeaglory]

first you must define "pistol grip" grasshoppa

[PRCABR4Christ]

No the magazine resides outside the pistol grip.

watch out...here comes the broomhandle!

[bwiese]

Mark,
How about a MM or a grip fin!! Then it isn't a pistol grip right?!?!
bjl

It may well be a pistol grip for general purposes, it's just not a pistol grip relevant to 12276.1PC Calif. generic AW laws... those regulatory definitions are defined relative to that body of law.

Overextending these ideas can get people in trouble.

[bwiese]

watch out...here comes the broomhandle!

• Regualr Broomhandles are NOT CA-defined AWs because they use an
  under-10-round fixed magazine.
  .
• Broomhandes with detachable magazines ARE CA-defined AWs, since
  they have a detachable mag separate from the grip.
  .
• There are NO C&R exemptions to California AW laws.