AR/AK pistols

[Ford8N]

Please, you and a couple others weren't fully reading what I wrote in my last few posts in this thread.

I had said that some AOWs were legal in CA and uncontrolled/ unpermitted by DOJ if NFA paperwork were properly and legally taken care of in a special way, of which I'd write about in a few weeks.


As an entirely separate issue- as far as a 26" OAL + 16" bbl semiauto centerfire *firearm* without a buttstock, that is a *firearm* - but it is not a rifle, it is not a pistol/handgun/revolver. It is not an SBR, SBS or AOW under Fed or CA law. It is thus not an AW either because SB23 AW laws only apply to "pistols", "rifles", and "shotguns" as defined in 12020(c).

I am not an attorney and this ain't legal advice, but I would emphasize that construction of such a non-AW/non-rifle/non-AOW plain ol' firearm should include some kind of end cap, decorative or otherwise, which eliminates possiblity of mounting a variety of buttstocks and demonstrates there's no intent of this being fireable from the shoulder.

So, since the law makers of SB23/RR didn't define what a "rifle" is, would a judge/DA/LEO use 12020(c)(20) if they found one of these "firearms" in the trunk of your car? Has anyone floated this past a good firearms law firm. Has anyone sent a certified letter with a law firms letter head to the DOJ for clarification? I'm quite sure they have been discussing this thread at the office.