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  • #16
    CAglock20c
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 1038

    glock 20 ftw!
    "I'm just a peckerwood who lives in the hills with too many guns."- Bobby Lee Swagger, Shooter

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    • #17
      Shenaniguns
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2006
      • 6158

      Originally posted by gorenut
      I've heard the same, but was wondering if there has been a sizable amount with this issue (mainly extraction problems) or if its all just hearsay/internet rumors blown out of proportions.

      Originally posted by locosway
      A challenge? No, it's a question. I see people say that the first batch of Gen4 Glocks had issues, but it's been corrected. I haven't seen anything other than a couple forum posts about it from various people who heard it from someone else.

      I do not believe the bugs are worked out of them yet, the first smaller frame Glocks were designed around 9mm and were reliable in 9mm with problems in .357 and .40. The Gen 4 was designed around .40 and is now having intermittent extraction problems with the 9mm models that are being diagnosed heavily by Todd Green and people on his forum who shoot alot (500-1000+ a week). The problems are possibly related to the extractor, ejector and/or recoil assembly.

      Todd Green will probably have the highest round privately owned Gen 4 Glock http://pistol-training.com/archives/4695


      Showing some of the different numbered and shaped extractors:
      http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.p...-have-started-....

      There are 14 pages of status reports of good and bad with various Gen 4 models here:


      Interesting reading from Glocktalk who is as Pro-Glock as they get:

      A small sample of these people have had extraction problems here


      The endurance test on GT


      All the recoil assemblies available which looks to me as Glock is hoping a lighter recoil assembly may fix the problem for most problematic guns, and why did they add a counterbore to the slide so soon after being released? IMO, they're still chasing what ever problems that are popping up as round counts rise.







      IMO I'd wait until more bugs are worked out before buying one personally, with the M&P I knew there were still a few bugs even after being out about 5 years but I knew what the fixes were.
      My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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      • #18
        hybridatsun350
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2007
        • 5336

        I voted 17 only because the 34 was not an option. If I could pick? Gen-3 Glock 34
        Dom

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        • #19
          JayBeeJay
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 583

          Originally posted by cali_armz
          you know, its too bad you cant carry a romanian draco as your on duty side arm. that would be cooler than a glock
          Your joking right? I got 2 Draco's and I would never think about using them for a on duty side arm. Those are simply range toys to me and not much more than that.

          I would go with either the 19 or 23. Which ever caliber you prefer.

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          • #20
            Gryff
            CGSSA Coordinator
            • May 2006
            • 12686

            Gen 1 or 2 G17 or a Gen 3 G34.
            My friends and family disavow all knowledge of my existence, let alone my opinions.

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            • #21
              SantaCabinetguy
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2011
              • 15137

              Partial to a .40. and the correct answer would have been the glock OD ****
              Hauoli Makahiki Hou


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              • #22
                tbhracing
                Banned
                • Oct 2008
                • 5523

                Duty gun for me- G17, 3RD GENERATION!

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                • #23
                  HUTCH 7.62
                  In Memoriam
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 11298

                  I would pick the XD-40, but the G-17 can accept 'Brady certified' assault clips which until recently adds to it's coolness
                  Some say that he once mooned two prostitutes just for a round of drinks, but wasn't surprised by the reply......They call him, the Hutch
                  Some say that he rode a dirtbike 7k miles across the country and that he once applied Bengay to his own testicles for a mere $50............They call him, the Hutch -Top Gear

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                  • #24
                    duc748bip
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 1081

                    Of the four I picked 22 since someone else will be pay ... well i actually mean you might have to shoot through barrier so larger cal is better.

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                    • #25
                      cali_armz
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 529

                      Originally posted by JayBeeJay
                      Your joking right? I got 2 Draco's and I would never think about using them for a on duty side arm. Those are simply range toys to me and not much more than that.

                      I would go with either the 19 or 23. Which ever caliber you prefer.
                      why do you say that? i was under the impression that dracos were incredibly reliable. maybe a little impractical, especially for a side arm, but the power they pack is still pretty good.

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                      • #26
                        NSR500
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 19530

                        Glock 21SF

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                        • #27
                          Jimmy310
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 1766

                          Originally posted by locosway
                          You have a source to back this up?
                          If you check youtube, many gen4 g17/19 has problems with stovepipes/fte's/etc. The gen 4 22/23 do not. Hopefully everythings fixed by now.



                          WTT: Federal hydrashock 40s&w JHP's for 9mm fmj's locally


                          http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=927721

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                          • #28
                            DannyZRC
                            Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 465

                            Originally posted by DannyZRC
                            none of the above.
                            To further expand;

                            I'm not alone in thinking/advocating that a manual safety is a good feature for an openly carried duty gun.

                            I'm also a fan of the DA/SA platform (far less universal support for this, clearly )

                            If you want a good duty gun, it's hard to beat a full size M&P with a thumb safety, in .40 if you can't shoot 9 any better (and 9 if you can shoot it better than .40).

                            For DA/SA leaning folks, There are Berettas and HKs that have both decockers and safeties.
                            The Range is a place where you carry a gun around and spend most of your time shooting it.
                            The Real World is a place where you carry a gun around and spend most of your time not shooting it.
                            Plan Accordingly.

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                            • #29
                              KIDRR
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 1266

                              3rd gen G20SF>G21SF>G17>G22
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                              • #30
                                c20rj
                                Member
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 214

                                G20......

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