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  • #16
    Rekrab
    Valar Dohaeris
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    • May 2009
    • 5534

    Yeah, never had a problem shooting HPs at OC Indoor either. Plus, the guys working there are super cool even if their range isn't the best.
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    • #17
      Sniper3142
      Veteran Member
      • May 2004
      • 2579

      Originally posted by iareConfusE
      On-Target doesn't care if you use steel core, FMJ, JHP, frangible, lead alloy, whatever ammo you want to use, as long as it isn't illegal in CA. Obviously no tracers too.
      Yup, no limitations on what kind of ammo, as long as it is legal in this state.

      That's the rule for most of the ranges I visit.
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      • #18
        Fishslayer
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        • Jan 2010
        • 13035

        There was a somilar thread to this awhile back...

        Why would HP not be allowed? The range I go to allows up to 30-06 & 7.62x54R as long as a magnet doesn't stick to it anywhere. The only rule I know about re handguns is no steel, no way, no how.

        Can't be a backstop issue. Would a handgun HP splash back more than a '06?
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        Originally Posted by JackRydden224
        I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
        Originally posted by redcliff
        A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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        • #19
          Javi
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 4540

          I'm going to be testing my hollowpoints over at Prado shooting range since it's outdoors.

          I just assumed no hollowpoints at indoor ranges because it would damage their backstop or something like that.
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          • #20
            Kilenger
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 19

            Some indoor rangers are limited by their back stop setup. Evan's Gun World in Orange used to not allow HPs on their range a few years back. The range officer said it was because of their bullet trap would not safely catch the more frangible HP rounds. Not sure if this is a limit based on insurance or county code. They eventually upgraded to something they called a "super trap" that used long angled planes of steel to gradually bounce the rounds into a secure area. Last time I shot there, about 5 years ago, they allowed everything that was CA legal (no tracers, incendiary, steel core, "armor piercing, etc).

            Call some local ranges and ask. Most should allow HPs.
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            • #21
              Fishslayer
              In Memoriam
              • Jan 2010
              • 13035

              Originally posted by Kilenger
              The range officer said it was because of their bullet trap would not safely catch the more frangible HP rounds. Not sure if this is a limit based on insurance or county code.
              Not sure if that makes sense or not. You'd think if a trap caught FMJ it would also catch JHP & whatnot.

              I get peppered pretty often by chunks of lead and my wife caught a chunk of '06 from 2 lanes down that broke the skin on her leg. Nobody needs to remind me to wear my eye pro.
              "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
              You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
              You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


              Originally Posted by JackRydden224
              I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
              Originally posted by redcliff
              A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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              • #22
                DaveFJ80
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 2066

                Originally posted by ThortheDog
                I think Orange County Indoor in Brea will allow HPs. At least I don't see a prohibition in the range rules on their website.
                Yup, OC Indoor allows HP ammo. I've tested my HP ammo there to make sure it fed through my guns. You don't notice any difference in the holes you make on paper targets compared to holes made by FMJ ammo, so it's a good waste of money when you're just testing/cycling the HP ammo through your guns.

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                • #23
                  G1500
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 1825

                  The indoor range I go to says "No HPs, no Black Powder, no WOLF"

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                  • #24
                    G1500
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 1825

                    Originally posted by DaveFJ80
                    so it's a good waste of money when you're just testing/cycling the HP ammo through your guns.
                    I feel it is very important to me to know that what I am going to shoot will work in my gun.

                    Buying a new gun, or using different HP bullets you should make sure they feed properly in your firearm. Others may have a different opinion, but when I need it, I want to make sure it works.....

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                    • #25
                      Fishslayer
                      In Memoriam
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 13035

                      Originally posted by G1500
                      The indoor range I go to says "No HPs, no Black Powder, no WOLF"
                      LOL! I've been at an indoor range when a few rounds of .45LC black powder loads were touched off.

                      This was in the days before "suck out the lead fumes" ventilators. Phee-yew!

                      Originally posted by G1500
                      I feel it is very important to me to know that what I am going to shoot will work in my gun.

                      Buying a new gun, or using different HP bullets you should make sure they feed properly in your firearm. Others may have a different opinion, but when I need it, I want to make sure it works.....
                      Agreed. Additionally I generally shoot SWC. If those feed I'm confident that HP should work.
                      Last edited by Fishslayer; 03-31-2011, 12:07 PM.
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                      You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
                      You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


                      Originally Posted by JackRydden224
                      I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
                      Originally posted by redcliff
                      A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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                      • #26
                        G1500
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 1825

                        Originally posted by Fishslayer
                        Agreed. Additionally I generally shoot SWC. If those feed I'm confident that HP should work.
                        True, but feeling confident and knowing are two different things.

                        If my firearm successfully feeds Federal Hydrashock, I am pretty sure it will feed Winchester HPs, but I would really prefer to test it out first

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                        • #27
                          Javi
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 4540

                          Originally posted by Fishslayer
                          I get peppered pretty often by chunks of lead and my wife caught a chunk of '06 from 2 lanes down that broke the skin on her leg. Nobody needs to remind me to wear my eye pro.
                          My last two range visits I've had this happen, really odd(to me)! I got hit on my right cheek with some, had me worried a bit.
                          Originally posted by d4v0s
                          My girlfriend and i used froglube last night in a pinch and it works great.
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                          • #28
                            scarville
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 2325

                            I shoot quite a lot at Magnum Range where they don't allow HP ammo. I don't know why but I shoot RNFP and DEWC I've loaded to velocities similar to my HP ammo. I go to Burro two or three times year and test my HP ammo there. Unless you are changing ammo all the time, how many round do you have to put through a gun to know it will work?
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                            • #29
                              Fishslayer
                              In Memoriam
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 13035

                              Originally posted by scarville
                              Unless you are changing ammo all the time, how many round do you have to put through a gun to know it will work?
                              I don't know, but I keep standard Win PDX1 from Walmart in the zombie gun. I've run a lot of magazines with the PDX1 loaded as the first round & last 2 rounds in the mag with SWC in between. That's usually where you get problems, especially with 8 rd mags in a 1911. The first round will nosedive or the last or next to last will fail to feed.

                              Just in case, it does sleep with a S&W wheelgun for backup.
                              "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
                              You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
                              You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


                              Originally Posted by JackRydden224
                              I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
                              Originally posted by redcliff
                              A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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                              • #30
                                arc
                                Member
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 204

                                The reason I've always been given for no HP was they were afraid a round would hit a target hanger, fragment, and bounce back to hit another customer. Whenever I want to test out a new gun with HP I go on an off hour and ask politely if I can. Never been told no yet.

                                James

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