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  • #16
    llamatrnr
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 4194

    Thanks, Guys . . .

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    • #17
      gobi fish
      Banned
      • Mar 2011
      • 345

      are you going by car, if so you can just keep both near each other in the trunk unlocked.

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      • #18
        Lapietra
        Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 159

        I have a truck as well, which is why I have always used a plastic or metal lockable container to transport my firearms; as I have no trunk to lock the firearms in and the firearms can be within reach.

        I was pulled over several years ago by a Sonoma County Sheriffs Deputy on my way home from pig hunting. It was nighttime and as the officer came to my window I immediately informed him I had firearms in the vehicle. After a little bit of over dramatics and them running the firearms serial numbers I was sent on my way with no problems (and no ticket since the officer really had no reason for pulling me over). My 30-30 was in a soft case and my glock 32 was in a hard case locked (both behind my seat in a crew cab). I have always known to lock my handguns in a case, just never really realized locking the gun unloaded in my range bag would be legal.

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        • #19
          Tzvia
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 602

          The only pita about having a truck is not having a trunk to lock your guns in. I use soft cases with lockable zippers for long arms and pistols (yea I know rifles don't need to be locked, but I pass two schools that are between my house and the first main street, and this is the fastest way out of my hillside neighborhood.) The cases don't need to be hard cases. The locks don't need to be anything special; I use the TSA 3 tumbler travel locks so I don't have to drag a bunch of keys around. I stick the pistols in rugs in a backpack and lock the backpack, then use a soft bag to carry ammo.

          I thought that since magazines were considered 'part of the gun' that loaded mags are a no-no for transport, even if not in the magwell? Also, that ammo needs to be in a separate container from the gun?
          Tzvia

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          • #20
            erik_26
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3907

            Originally posted by Lapietra
            I have a truck as well, which is why I have always used a plastic or metal lockable container to transport my firearms; as I have no trunk to lock the firearms in and the firearms can be within reach.

            I was pulled over several years ago by a Sonoma County Sheriffs Deputy on my way home from pig hunting. It was nighttime and as the officer came to my window I immediately informed him I had firearms in the vehicle. After a little bit of over dramatics and them running the firearms serial numbers I was sent on my way with no problems (and no ticket since the officer really had no reason for pulling me over). My 30-30 was in a soft case and my glock 32 was in a hard case locked (both behind my seat in a crew cab). I have always known to lock my handguns in a case, just never really realized locking the gun unloaded in my range bag would be legal.
            Not to be cruel, but I think you need to learn your rights. And read the gun laws.

            At least you came to the right place. But be cautious. There is still a lot of bad data to be found. Telling a judge that "(usernamex) said I can drive while drunk while shooting at cows with my weak hand on full moon Thursdays was legal." won’t get you off the hook. You are solely responsible to know your rights and all the laws.

            It is not in your best interest to disclose you have anything in your vehicle.


            If you had drugs, would you tell the LEO...... 'Excuse me Sir, I have 3 kilos of Cocaine in my truck. But don't worry, it is in a locked container.'? I didn’t think so.

            Even if a LEO flat at asks you specifically if you have weapons in the vehicle, there are techniques to answer the question (without confirming or denying) change the subject and move on. It is like chess with words.



            P.S. Your gun bag with lock as shown looks 100% legal. Nice bag. Remember ammo is not regulated for transporting. You can have loaded mags in the same locked container as the gun. You just can’t have a loaded mag in the mag well of the gun. Or a unexpended round in the chamber.

            Don’t expect the LEO to know the laws.
            Last edited by erik_26; 03-22-2011, 7:28 AM.
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            • #21
              toneman
              Member
              • Apr 2008
              • 328

              Hey, that's what I do,
              In fact the lock you use is very similar to mine.
              Last edited by toneman; 03-22-2011, 7:28 AM.

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              • #22
                erik_26
                Veteran Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 3907

                Originally posted by Tzvia
                I thought that since magazines were considered 'part of the gun' that loaded mags are a no-no for transport, even if not in the magwell? Also, that ammo needs to be in a separate container from the gun?
                Incorrect. No rules on ammo. This is probably one of the most common made up laws. It is so common that even LEOs believe this.

                There is tons of information on this here on Calguns.

                Here is a post from another thread I responded on.

                A pistol needs to be in locked container while being transport in a car.

                Your pistol can be in an unlocked case, or out of a case if it is in the trunk. A trunk is considered to be a locked container. As long as there is no access to the trunk through the back seat.

                A firearm is only 'loaded' when there is a loaded magazine in the mag-well of the gun. Or there is an unexpended round in the chamber.

                It is perfectly legal to have ammo scattered about all over your car (not recommended, but legal). It is perfectly legal to have a loaded magazine in the same locked container as the gun. As long as it is not in the mag-well of the gun.

                You can have a pistol on the front passenger seat with a loaded magazine right next to it. It is perfectly legal because it is not concealed. Don't expect any LEO to know any of this.

                However, all firearms need to be in a locked container when in a traveling through a restricted area (like within 1000' of a school).

                It is extremely imperative that you read and reread and reread the law (federal, state and local). Consult a lawyer in regards to any questions. Know all your rights.

                Keep a copy of Penal Codes and highlight those related to your needs. Do not be afraid to politely ask a LEO to consult their supervisor if they are unaware of material you are presenting.

                I would suggest buying a decent lockable container to transport your firearm and ammunition in. Keep it locked all the time. Then you don't have to worry about it. If a LEO inquires as to what is in the container.... your response should always be 'I have nothing illegal'.

                Good luck!
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                • #23
                  red_eyez
                  Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 252

                  this is how I do..

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                  • #24
                    Lapietra
                    Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 159

                    erik_26:

                    1. I do know the majority of the laws and my rights. I have been reading on this site since 2009. I just never considered not using a separate lockable container and wanted to get some feedback.

                    2. I notified the officer that I had firearms in the vehicle as I had nothing to hide and it was pretty obvious that I was hunting since I had a quad and dead hog in the back of the truck and I was dressed in full camo. I saw no harm in disclosing that which I am sure the officer already suspected. They didnt even ask me to get out of the truck. The officer asked for the keys to the container, opened the truck door, and retrieved the firearms. It wasnt more than 10 minutes which I was pulled over. The experience was not that big of a deal and certified to me that the way I was transporting my firearms was acceptable.

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                    • #25
                      ruddogg
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 2581

                      check out this thread... thanks to Oceanbob... in post #6, I'm doing the same.

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                      • #26
                        NorCal Einstein
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1242

                        Originally posted by red_eyez
                        this is how I do..
                        +1

                        I have to do something in a very similar fashion with my Maxpedition bag which has dual zippers.

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                        • #27
                          Kodemonkey
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 2904

                          This fits in my briefcase easily. Magazine is loose next to it. Fits a M&P compact 40 easily. Spent like $15 on it at cabelas.

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                          • #28
                            Lapietra
                            Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 159

                            Originally posted by ruddogg
                            check out this thread... thanks to Oceanbob... in post #6, I'm doing the same.

                            http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...&highlight=car
                            I recently got something similar as well but it is steel and adds too much weight to my range bag. But a great idea still. Guess if I would have properly used the search function I would have gotten my answer. None the less thanks to all for the feedback and the pics have given me a few more ideas for when I am otherwise traveling.

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                            • #29
                              NorCal Einstein
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1242

                              He's talking about the laptop case, not the GunVault.

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                              • #30
                                ruddogg
                                Veteran Member
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 2581

                                Originally posted by NorCal Einstein
                                He's talking about the laptop case, not the GunVault.
                                yup... I'm talking about the laptop case that will go in the back pouch of my front passenger seat.

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