Unsafe Guns For Cops

[DannyZRC]

Can you explain what immunity from surveillance is? I literally have no idea what you are talking about. As for number of felony offenses always increasing, that is simply not true. Crime rates vary year to year. Lastly, can you explain how the number of convicted felons could possibly do anything but increase? Every time somebody is convicted of a felony for the first time, and an already-conviced felon doesn't die, the number goes up. Thanks for writing your garbage.

There have been a few high profile incidents recently where people had their computer equipment seized and faced legal trouble because they videotaped themselves during a traffic stop or other police dispute. This is what I was referring to by immunity from surveillance.

As to # of felony offenses rising, I meant # of laws whose violation constitutes a felony offense. I see your point about the # of felons, and I should have specified rate. With prosperity, you'll see a downward trend in violent crime, but I think there is an expansion of felony convictions stemming from all sorts of sources, the war on drugs. The overall felony rate may be going down (and hopefully it stays that way), but more and more people IMO are wrongly being denied their rights due to increasing legal strictures.

Tommy Chong and Martha Stewart can't own firearms in the USA anymore. (unless they've gotten their record expunged, which again is an avenue usually reserved for the well connected, bringing me back to my argument on stratified "basic rights").

[five.five-six]

i see your point, i would add why do leo's need high cap mags? if we dont have them, then they would not have a need for them as well right? i mean if we can protect our family and neighbors with 10 rounds or less , then they should be able to do the same right?

exactly, why would a LEO need to "spray bullets indiscriminately", killing large crowds of people, IMO, LOEs should be limited to 5 round magazines

[jayhuh]

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[hkdad]

[Uriah02]

It is surprising how many people can't see satire when it is right in front of them...

[ErikTheRed]

Its rather unsettling, the number of people who read the op's post and completely missed the point and flew off the handle with accusations of TROLL. Ummm, people, we're pro-gunners-- we need to be smarter than that. We need to be above the media-fed sheep who the libtard dems and the Brady Bunch rely on, and if you missed the point of this thread, well.......... uhh.......

Anyway, very valid points made by the op. The roster is a joke to any real thinking American, but a necessary anti-gun scheme perpetrated by the anti-gun left. The flaws are painfully apparent, as is its complete and utter failure to accomplish anything it claims to accomplish. Since this is such an obvious reality, its perfectly astute to acknowledge that the real intent for the roster is hidden behind a curtain of anti-gun zealotry...... a thinly vailed curtain impervious only to a total braindead liberal freak, but a curtain none-the-less.

[jmsenk]

I agree with the satire, and find it amusing, but not really something I would take seriously. until I moved to California, i viewed my 15 round magazines as normal, not Hi-Cap... and finding out that I had tobuy all new Low-Cap mags before moving here was downright infuriating. If Cops can carry whatever they want when off duty, then yeah, I have an issue with that - because then they are private citizens just like anyone else. But yeah, the whole "Safe" handgun list and the 10 round capacity magazine regulation is a complete farce and is nothing but ignorance in action.

[appagohm]

Whatever, I don't need more then ten rounds, and in case i do, can reload a new mag in less then a second. As far a the roster goes, I don't think LEOs would intentionally pick an unsafe gun. And i guess it's kind of fare as far as high cap mags go. If your going to break the law, you can easily pick up a high cap and get it shipped over. It's the people that abide by the law that it hurts.

[locosway]

Since I'm already labeled as being anti-LEO for some reason... I'm going to just say that anyone who disagrees with the OP is a LEO and likes the double standard they get to live.

[cmichini]

I can't have it so one can? Grow up troll.

It should be about extending rights to everyone, not taking it away from one group.

Cool story Bro...

GTFO Troll

Justin

I don't think he's a troll. I think he's pointing a clear equal protection clause situation that has limited our rights, while not doing so for LEOs. To me, the post is trying to articulate that the list is bogus for EVERYONE. Safe guns depend on who's holding it, not what some bureaucratic bedwetter in Sacramento says is 'safe'.

And based on the recent article about how the SFPD is quite 'experienced' with ND's that you can logically argue that they are in equal need of not-unsafe guns as anyone else.

I'm with him 100%. Equal is equal. After all, LEO's are citizens like us (or at least they're supposed to be).

[Blaze Kenobi]

What I think, is that we need to judicially capitalize on events that show that guns are not the problem but certain people, especially when we have LEOs shooting themselves for whatever reason like in Woodland Hills just a few weeks ago. We need to get aggressive in filing the right cases to show that the "The List" as it is called is an Elitist way of obtaining guns that should be a right for everyone else. You need to be on the inside if you want to obtain a CCW. A celebrity will always be favored in obtaining one. Those same people that have off duty LEO's watching their backs as bodyguards can easily "order" a particular gun by just shinning their teeth to the LEO's and asking them how they can obtain a gun like them. It is done all the time in Hollywood but it is seldom talked about outside of the "Ring" which is what they like to call it when they are in the business. Hollywood prop houses can and do obtain guns and rifles that are used for scenes but are "unsafe" firearms for everybody else. So if you are IN you can get any handgun you want. But the people that support them (LEOs and celebrities) are considered a subspecies here in Kommifornia. We need to raise our future generations into seeing how this state has seperated from our Constitutional foundation and have them bring us back from a socialist left winged state. IMHO.

[mike452]

"Unsafe Guns For Cops"

Any gun owned by someone else. hehe!

[sanjosebmx]

"Unsafe Guns For Cops"

Any gun owned by someone else. hehe!

completely false, my gun is not unsafe for an LEO I am a legal owner and a citizen that has the right to own, and am not intending on committing crimes etc.


IMO the LEO's need to 'outgun' the criminals, for that matter....I should have that right as well.

[BC9696]

Okay

"The only reason to have 33 bullets loaded in a handgun is to kill a lot of people very quickly. These high-capacity clips simply should not be on the market," Lautenberg said.


Hmm, so the only reason to have Hi Caps is to kill a lot of people quickly? Well our local Police Force is supposed to be protecting not killing us, yes no?

Let's say I go along with your postulation. What if I need to kill a lot of people? What if i am defending my family, employees and store inventory from large gangs of armed looters? Am I not entitled to be aptly armed and have a fighting chance of survival? Bear this in mind before answering...I am not a criminal but those who i would be dealing with would have illegal weapons and high cap magazines because CRIMINALS DON'T FOLLOW ANY SOCIETAL RULES!

[Fishslayer]

Even the most ardent gun-control advocate should be against something that 1) costs public money and 2) does nothing.

Liberals don't really care if it costs public money & does nothing as long as it makes them feel good...

...AND gets us one step closer to a disarmed law abiding citizenry...



And Tiberius... I "got it" immediately.