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  • #16
    evolixsurf
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 919

    ohh, and your gun isnt gone from you for weeks at a time if you order the apex kit!

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    • #17
      Shenaniguns
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2006
      • 6158

      It will work, the RAM. Installing a RAM into a mag disco gun will deactivate the mag disco feature w/o a specific spring.
      My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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      • #18
        Shenaniguns
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2006
        • 6158

        Originally posted by evolixsurf
        I have the apex kit. I bought it and installed everything myself(and really, really glad I did). The only hard part was getting the rear sight off to install the new plunger. I was horribly sad when I got it back together because the feel and break of the trigger was much better with the stock plunger! So dont even mod that part(skip the hard part!). It goes from a nice crisp break(with stock plunger) to a rounded creepy break(go figure, the plunger is more rounded which makes the break longer)!!! I have not felt a burwell trigger job, or any other stock M&P for that matter, so I have no idea what anything else feels like. Generally this stock trigger pull is absolutely HORRIBLE in the stock form, and gets much better and much more consistant, clean and (dare I say) predictable with the sear and spring kit from apex.

        I personally dont like sending my gun out in the mail.... Its just not the greatest option when you can do it yourself(and learn how your gun works).

        You are referring to the Ultimate Striker Block which determines the smoothness of the trigger pull. Your case maybe rare as this is the first time I read or heard this.
        My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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        • #19
          Shenaniguns
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2006
          • 6158

          Originally posted by evolixsurf
          ohh, and your gun isnt gone from you for weeks at a time if you order the apex kit!

          I've had my gun mailed from Sacramento to Los Osos on a Thursday, everything installed polished and test fired then back in my hands on the next Tuesday YMMV


          And tell them I sent ya
          Last edited by Shenaniguns; 01-28-2011, 2:52 PM.
          My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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          • #20
            evolixsurf
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 919

            Originally posted by Shenaniguns
            You are referring to the Ultimate Striker Block which determines the smoothness of the trigger pull. Your case maybe rare as this is the first time I read or heard this.
            Yes, Sorry I was referring to the striker block. The trigger bar rolls over this and the firing pin is dropped right? The stock striker block was WAY more crisp than the rounded apex striker block. try it for yourself. If I had a good drift punch or sight tool I would have my stock striker block back on in a second.

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            • #21
              Shenaniguns
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2006
              • 6158

              Like I said, your case maybe rare as the USB helps with how the pull feels but does not affect the crispness of the break.
              My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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              • #22
                evolixsurf
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 919

                Originally posted by Shenaniguns
                Like I said, your case maybe rare as the USB helps with how the pull feels but does not affect the crispness of the break.

                I see, well you might be right, as it probably doesnt help the crispness of the break itself, its more the stage in which triggers the break...

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                • #23
                  K3n
                  Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 184

                  Or maybe thats why Randy needs to do all the work!

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                  • #24
                    evolixsurf
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 919

                    Sorry to bring this debate here(hopefully it helps people understand), but I do think it might help the crispness of the break itself. If the striker block is more sharp, it will release more quick, causing a quicker break, right? Seems logical to me...


                    About randy doing the work - all these parts are more or less "drop in". Cant do much wrong.

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                    • #25
                      Shenaniguns
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 6158

                      Originally posted by evolixsurf
                      I see, well you might be right, as it probably doesnt help the crispness of the break itself, its more the stage in which triggers the break...
                      Is this with the same spring? But hey, if it works for you than fantastic
                      My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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                      • #26
                        evolixsurf
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 919

                        I changed the spring to the one that was provided. I used every part that came with the kit.

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                        • #27
                          BoJackUSMC
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 7091

                          I also have M&P 9mm and I got myself a APEX tactical RAM. It really does makes big difference on my M&P. So far, my trigger pull is not bad at all so I only got APEX RAM so far. A+++ on APEX Tactical, very easy to install just by watching the video clips from youtube.

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                          • #28
                            K3n
                            Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 184

                            Hey Shenaniguns, just noticed, but looks like your M&P's beavertail was trimmed?

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                            • #29
                              K3n
                              Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 184

                              Originally posted by BoJackUSMC
                              I also have M&P 9mm and I got myself a APEX tactical RAM. It really does makes big difference on my M&P. So far, my trigger pull is not bad at all so I only got APEX RAM so far. A+++ on APEX Tactical, very easy to install just by watching the video clips from youtube.
                              Didja have to remove the mag disco first? or yours never had one?

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                              • #30
                                Shenaniguns
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 6158

                                Originally posted by evolixsurf
                                Sorry to bring this debate here(hopefully it helps people understand), but I do think it might help the crispness of the break itself. If the striker block is more sharp, it will release more quick, causing a quicker break, right? Seems logical to me...


                                About randy doing the work - all these parts are more or less "drop in". Cant do much wrong.

                                Not AFAIK as the break is more dependent on the sear and striker contact. Here's my 9C's USB in Hard Chrome finish and is as crisp as can be.

                                My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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