is selling as "single shot" a loophole?

[Uhhlexxxis]

See it was cool because I could buy all the handguns you all couldn't... now this single shot exempt crap doesn't make me feel special at all... At least I get to utilize the hi-cap magazines.

I'll just have to start buying non-mainstream handguns, like a Kimber Super Pro Carry.. single shot exempt that suckaz

Hopefully they'll change the law and I can go back to feeling special.

[JagerTroop]

I'll just have to start buying non-mainstream handguns, like a Kimber Super Pro Carry.. single shot exempt that suckaz

Hopefully they'll change the law and I can go back to feeling special.

What is so special about the Kimber Super Carry Pro? Just another 1911. It shouldn't be too tough to single shot.

Maybe the reason you don't feel special, is because you aren't. I'm guessing that you're LE. Good job reinforcing the "us vs. them" mentality

[dascoyne]

"Loophole" implies "illegal" or "illicit", a single shot transfer is neither. It is legal and 100% above the board.

exactly.

this issue's been discussed to death.

Is making a featureless rifle a "loophole"?
Is purchasing carbon credits so I can have permission to run my factories a "loophole"?

[Sam]

Using the single shot exemption is strict compliance with the law as written.

[Blackhawk556]

@morrcarr67.....I wasn't fishing, I was simply asking a question. People like you make calguns less enjoyable because of the crappy attitude you bring you the forum.

[SJgunguy24]

What is so special about the Kimber Super Carry Pro? Just another 1911. It shouldn't be too tough to single shot.

Maybe the reason you don't feel special, is because you aren't. I'm guessing that you're LE. Good job reinforcing the "us vs. them" mentality

Yep, 1000%. His attitude is exactly why some people hate LEO's. It's old, tired and IMO really 2nd grade type of behaviour, " I have a gold star and that makes me special.....nanananana".

[SJgunguy24]

Actually, Valkyrie is quite late to the party. Other shops have been doing this for years. PRK was one of (if not "THE") frontrunners of this exemption. How do you think there were so many AR, AK, MAC, and UZI pistols before Valkyrie came along?

True, but nobody was doing that for main stream handguns like Glock, 1911 types, or anything that isn't scary enough looking to be in the display case. They wouldn't even touch anything like a Glock or a Sig unless you were one of the "Boyz". "There's plenty of shops selling that stuff, you wanna Uzi, you come here" is how it went IIRC.

[dascoyne]

See it was cool because I could buy all the handguns you all couldn't... now this single shot exempt crap doesn't make me feel special at all... At least I get to utilize the hi-cap magazines.

I'll just have to start buying non-mainstream handguns, like a Kimber Super Pro Carry.. single shot exempt that suckaz

Hopefully they'll change the law and I can go back to feeling special.

Fortunately I have enough friends in law enforcement who aren't this arrogant or juvenile - otherwise I might think they were all like this.

[morrcarr67]

@morrcarr67.....I wasn't fishing, I was simply asking a question. People like you make calguns less enjoyable because of the crappy attitude you bring you the forum.

Maybe, but had you really looked for this info before posting you you would have found that; like many others here posted, this has been asked and answered way too many times.

[bwiese]

The law (12133PC) has a SPECIFICALLY-WORDED EXEMPTION for dimensionally-comoliant single-shot handguns.

This was a specific exemption passed in its own right back in 2005 (I think it was AB269, by Dutton).

The law got traction across the aisle because it was thought to be for "hunting guns" (Thomspon/Center Contenders, Rem. XP100s without mags, etc.)

The fact that other guns can be converted not really relevant to anything except our creativity.

[Saigon1965]

More along the line of this is the last in the US - Come and get it - No more ever -

Marketing genius -

True, but nobody was doing that for main stream handguns like Glock, 1911 types, or anything that isn't scary enough looking to be in the display case. They wouldn't even touch anything like a Glock or a Sig unless you were one of the "Boyz". "There's plenty of shops selling that stuff, you wanna Uzi, you come here" is how it went IIRC.

[Vanilla Gorilla]

No loop - We read the law and abided by it - Word for word -

+1

[Uhhlexxxis]

Ahh I always enjoy when the few folks get their feelings hurt. I generally always reply to these "single shot" BS threads because it's beating a dead horse. There should be a sticky regarding single shot exemption right below the "The California ‘safe gun list’" thread so people don't bring this up EVERYDAY. omg, i can haz?

the gold badge made me laugh...

[Ed_Hazard]

Wow, whata douche.

[stillnotbob]

It's a legally written exemption. It's not a "loophole" if the law is written to allow it.

A couple of definitions of "loophole" found on the web:
- An ambiguity (especially one in the text of a law or contract) that makes it possible to evade a difficulty or obligation.

It's not a loophole just as plan-b stated. It is written out in the law that a single shot pistol does not have to be on the roster. There is no ambiguity there. It is written out clear as day.

A loophole would be painting a XYZ gun silver because it was illegal to own green, red and blue colored XYZ guns. The "law" would thus be written that green, red and blue XYZ guns are illegal, but it would not be stated if SILVER colored XYZ guns are illegal. Thus creating a loophole because of the ambiguity if silver XYZ guns are legal.