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  • Blackhawk556
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 4182

    is selling as "single shot" a loophole?

    I told a friend about buying a xdm using the single shot method and he said, "oh, so it's a loophole". I told him that it was a way To comply with the law but he said again, "yeah but it's a loophole". He's not an anti, he actually is a member here but hardly logs on.

    He actually loves this because he also wants a xdm and other non-roster guns.
    So what do you say? Will the antis start saying we are using "loopholes" to get around the roster?
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    hnoppenberger
    Senior Member
    • May 2008
    • 1398

    no knowledge on the subject, but had to add:

    why feel bad of a loophole to get around a law that is unconstitutional in the first place?

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    • #3
      jtmkinsd
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 2352

      It's not a "loophole"...it's the law...as written by our wonderful legislature
      Originally posted by orangeglo
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      • #4
        Blackhawk556
        Veteran Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 4182

        Wait a minute, I never said I feel bad. I like the idea of sticking it to the state for screwing us for so long. Do I think the roster should exist? HELL NO!! I hope it dies
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        • #5
          Saigon1965
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Nov 2003
          • 17276

          No loop - We read the law and abided by it - Word for word -

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          • #6
            JagerTroop
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 3922

            It's not a loophole. It is simply an alternate route to your(our) desired destination.
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            • #7
              jrara
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 1726

              Originally posted by JagerTroop
              It's not a loophole. It is simply an alternate route to your(our) desired destination.
              +1 on that
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              • #8
                XDRoX
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 4420

                Lol at the replies. Of course it's a loophole. That's what a loophole is. Who cares. Nothing to be ashamed about. Loopholes are cool.
                Chris
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                Originally posted by Oceanbob
                Get a DILLON...

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                • #9
                  Turbinator
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                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 11930

                  Originally posted by jtmkinsd
                  It's not a "loophole"...it's the law...as written by our wonderful legislature
                  What he said.

                  Turby

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                  • #10
                    plan-b
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 680

                    It's a legally written exemption. It's not a "loophole" if the law is written to allow it. And the way it's being done with guns like the XDM is by following the exemption strictly to the letter.

                    A couple of definitions of "loophole" found on the web:
                    - An ambiguity (especially one in the text of a law or contract) that makes it possible to evade a difficulty or obligation.
                    - A loophole is a weakness or exception that allows a system, such as a law or security, to be circumvented or otherwise avoided.

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                    • #11
                      GW
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • May 2004
                      • 16078

                      Dealers using the single shot exemption are in strict compliance with the law.
                      It is not a shady area that they are in. It is rather black and white. If it were the least bit gray the DOJ would be all over them.
                      Remember Rob Blank and the confiscated lowers? DOJ thought they had something on him for selling those lowers and they acted (wrongly as it turned out) .
                      Not happening here.
                      The "Right people" are ready should there be any "event" but
                      DOJ has not been able to to do anything because NO LAW HAS BEEN BROKEN!
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                      • #12
                        vintagearms
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 6841

                        Technically it is a "loophole" if you use Plan-b's 2nd definition. Nothing wrong with circumventing a bad law though. lawfully of course.

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                        • #13
                          Blackhawk556
                          Veteran Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 4182

                          [QUOTE=XDRoX;5551803]Lol at the replies. Of course it's a loophole. That's what a loophole is. Who cares. Nothing to be ashamed about. Loopholes are cool.[/QUOTE


                          so you you think this can be used against us and paint us in a more negative way
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                          • #14
                            plan-b
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 680

                            Originally posted by Blackhawk556
                            so you you think this can be used against us and paint us in a more negative way
                            As long as people run around calling it a "loophole" it can, us included. But look at what a "loophole" really is. It's ambiguity or weakness that allows you to evade or circumvent. The law is clearly and explicitly written to allow single shot pistols meeting specific size criteria to be purchased and DROSed outside the confines of The Roster. It's built into the legislation.

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                            • #15
                              SJgunguy24
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • May 2008
                              • 14849

                              Originally posted by XDRoX
                              Lol at the replies. Of course it's a loophole. That's what a loophole is. Who cares. Nothing to be ashamed about. Loopholes are cool.
                              "Loophole" implies "illegal" or "illicit", a single shot transfer is neither. It is legal and 100% above the board.
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