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  • #16
    Shenaniguns
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2006
    • 6158

    I appologize, I didn't even realize that I used the term "crappy" like I did. That wasn't the context I was trying to use, I was trying to say that you can appreciate a nice model w/o having to start at the bottom, And when I said this I mean handguns in general, should we start out with High Points so we can appreciate an XD or a Glock? I don't think so. Do I think GI models or similiar are crappy? Not at all
    Same with cars, I don't need to start out with a Yugo to appreciate a Lexus or even a Honda...


    Originally posted by slick_711
    Wow.

    I've shot every single Les Baer that is on the CA approved list, and a few that aren't. I've shot the TRS quite a bit (for not owning one, 600+ rounds). I will be the first to say that the TRS is the best 1911 currently made, and if I had the money to toss around it would be my next gun. However, I don't have the money to toss around, and I assure you that when comparing my SA or my Colt to a TRS, while they pale slightly in comparison, they don't come up in the "crappy" category. Do the poor folk a favor and be a little less repugnant in the way you describe their guns.
    Last edited by Shenaniguns; 06-25-2007, 9:42 AM.
    My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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    • #17
      Miltiades
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 1148

      Kimber Custom Target II

      If I were looking for my first 1911 for under $800 that would be used for targets at the range, I would buy a Kimber Custom Target II. These generally sell at just under $800 new and have a nice trigger and big adjustable target sights.

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      • #18
        3GunFunShooter
        In Memoriam
        • Dec 2005
        • 2408

        I really like my S & W 1911. I have always been a S&W fan.
        Shoots great. No problems.
        Great gun for IDPA or USPSA Single Stack.
        If you can't shoot good, at least look good shooting

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        • #19
          proraptor
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 2594

          I myself would get a milspec and trick it out with a bunch of parts....Why? Cause its fun working on guns and upgrading them yourself (which you can do with the 1911 its easy).
          Nothin says hate like a .308

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          • #20
            cho034442
            Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 210

            For around $800, look at Kimber Custom II or TLE II (rail model cost more), Springfield loaded, and S&W 1911 .45. They look similar, so pick the ones that appeal to you the most and then check out the actual guns and see which one fits you the best. Keep in mind that the frame come in different material and weight differently.

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            • #21
              1911whore
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2006
              • 2978

              Kimber. Ive owned my fair share of colts, Springers, and Kimber. Shot plenty more. For the money Kimber is going to be better fit, better finished, and more accurate than the springer. I dont know too many springfield owners that havent HAD to use the warranty and I dont know too many kimber owners that have had to. Plus if you like a high grip the front strap on the kiimber is cut a bit higher than the springer. The new colts Ive seen seem to be even higher than the kimbers actually the new colts look to have an upcut wich i really like.
              "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin

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              • #22
                ianS
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2004
                • 1108

                This only pertains to me and maybe some other shooters. As far Kimbers I found their frames and the thumb safety they use is uncomfortable with a high thumb hold (strong side thumb on top of thumb safety) I'm not sure its the way they cut the frames but when shooting more than a 100 rounds it gets uncomfortable and rubs the joint of my thumb. No probs with Baers, SA Custom guns, SA production guns, Colts, or SW1911's.

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                • #23
                  bear
                  Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 411

                  You know the "safe queen" comment makes me think you might do well to consider a gun like Les Baer, that is fun just to handle, and admire, even without actually shooting it that often. You can really feel the difference between it and a Kimber, or especially Springfield. Compare a TRP to a Premier II and you will easily see which one is worth the money. Look at the details, and the Baer will just blow SA away, not even close. But the prices are a lot close than you'd believe, at least the TRP at Canyon Sports.
                  I want a Colt, but not any of the ones they sell here, too bad! I will probably buy next a used 70's Colt, or even earlier like late 60's if I can find one.

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                  • #24
                    Black Majik
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 9695

                    When it comes to production 1911s, I favor Kimber. Under $800 I'd probably look at the SW1911, Kimber Custom II, Springfield Loaded and the Dan Wessons. They all feel different in the hand and shoot a little different too. Best would be to try as many 1911s as you can, either from friends or forum members and make your decision based upon what you enjoyed most.

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                    • #25
                      PistolPete75
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 5230

                      Originally posted by markymark
                      I also think that if you're going to be buying just one 1911, might as well get a higher end one. Les Baer, Wilson Combat, Nighthawk Custom. Handle them and see which you like best.
                      yes, drop the money on a Les Baer Premier II, comes with everything that you will ever need and want. my idea is just get that one nice gun that you will shoot forever.

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                      • #26
                        JOEKILLA
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 1458

                        For the price and good 'ol memories, I went for the SA GI .45.
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                        • #27
                          brownie
                          Junior Member
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 3

                          1. Under $1000 (or thereabouts), Dan Wesson Pointman 7
                          2. Under $2000, Les Baer Premier II

                          just my two cents worth.

                          --Bill

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                          • #28
                            Thrillbilly
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 1131

                            I love my Kimber Raptor and my Colt combat elite. A buddy of mine has a SA that he had redone by wilson thats just awesome to shoot. But with 1911's you can never seem to just have one so just go with the one you want the most thats within your price range

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                            • #29
                              glockman19
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 10486

                              i have 3 Kimbers and think they're great.

                              Custom II can be bought for $700 NIB.

                              Otherwise a Springfield would be my second choice, Colt third and if you have teh money an Ed Brown or Les Baer.

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                              • #30
                                PistolPete75
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 5230

                                Originally posted by glockman19
                                i have 3 Kimbers and think they're great.

                                Custom II can be bought for $700 NIB.

                                Otherwise a Springfield would be my second choice, Colt third and if you have teh money an Ed Brown or Les Baer.
                                yes for under 1g, I would go with Kimber. I have a tactical custom II, and it shoots great.

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