Glock Guys: Weird question...

[Greg-Dawg]

I have huge hands...that's why the ladies love me.

I can point shoot with my Glocks as well/same as a 1911. No problems for me.

I loves me Glocks.

[Grayblue]

I have mid sized hand. My fingers are skinny and slightly longer than most others with similar sized hand.

[slobson]

I think that's part of the problem. The other part is people who have shot with one type of pistol for years trying a Glock once, and criticizing because it's not exactly the same as what they like. The last part would be people who see things written by both sets of people and parrot their opinions as their own. Not that I think everyone should like Glocks, but damn, I have never seen a pistol so loved/hated.

in my experience the best course of action when dealing with those you are describing (crotchety and set in their ways) is leave them to their happy safe routine, and look forward to taking advantage of the opportunity to try new things.

[faterikcartman]

My wife loves Glocks. I like them fine. My wife has girl hands. She likes the smaller ones. I can palm a basketball. I can handle any of them. But I think the grip does not feel very secure on the bottom rear bulge. Not because of size, but because the Gen 3 surface sucks, IMO, for "grippiness". The Gen 4 is okay and the grip panels are a nice touch. But the RTF 2 is the best. I have no idea why they didn't make that the Gen 4 standard. Maybe there is a good reason that I'm just not privy to.

I like collecting guns. Guns like the XD and a few others strike me as neither collectible, nor the wonderfully functional tool I find the Glock to be. Even when the only Glock in the house was my wife's I always respected the Glock for what it is.

There are a lot of guys around here that are relatively new to shooting and have a bone to pick with Glocks when they strike me as too green to know the difference between their arses and a hole in the ground. There are other folks who have been shooting for years and don't like them because "a handgun has a metal frame". Fair enough. I wouldn't get worked up about it one way or the other, though I think many complaints can be solved with a smaller grip like on a 17, or chalked up to user error and/or lack of experience. IMO.

I think the smartest thing Glock could do going forward is rather than try to get Gen 4 high-cap frames approved for California, they should make a series of slimmer gripped single-stack frames for the 10 round states. Overnight a lot of people would become Glock converts. Reminds me of a buddy with smaller hands. He said he wanted a Sig but didn't like the fat grips. I said try a P220 and he said "the .45, are you crazy? I just said the grips are too big." Of course he didn't realize the 220 is a single-stack design and not as fat as the high-cap frames in the grip. Makes all the difference for a lot of people.

As for folks who say the Glock grip angle is wrong and doesn't point naturally -- they're just nuts. Again, IMO.

YMMV, and good luck.

[Grayblue]

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There are a lot of guys around here that are relatively new to shooting and have a bone to pick with Glocks when they strike me as too green to know the difference between their arses and a hole in the ground. There are other folks who have been shooting for years and don't like them because "a handgun has a metal frame". Fair enough. I wouldn't get worked up about it one way or the other, though I think many complaints can be solved with a smaller grip like on a 17, or chalked up to user error and/or lack of experience. IMO.
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I don't know exacly what you mean by "bone to pick," but if you mean expressing what someone don't like about a Glock:

I've been shooting for years and don't think a handgun must have a metal frame. I have shot a 17 and I have a 22 which have a same size grip.

"...chalked up to user error and/or lack of experience. ..."
Yeah, anyone can do that in regards to people who don't like what you like, not that it makes it true.

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As for folks who say the Glock grip angle is wrong and doesn't point naturally -- they're just nuts. Again, IMO.

YMMV, and good luck.

Like I stated earlier, each person has different wrist motion range and a different point where their wrist feels neutral, the point where the shooter can maintain that wrist position without consciously exerting muscle force, in any given situation.

If someone feels that certain gun in certain grip angle does not point natraully for them in a certain situation, why are they nuts? Explain it.

[slobson]

As for folks who say the Glock grip angle is wrong and doesn't point naturally -- they're just nuts. Again, IMO.

so I'm nuts because the gun points naturally for you and doesn't for me? good to know

[Sajedene]

I have small hands. I like the way my glock fits into my hand. I don't like the whole gun bashing thing. I stay away from all that.

[Cuda440]

I am 6'1", and I normally wear xl gloves. I have a glock 31, and I love it. When I pick it up and point ,it's lined up perfectly, when I grab a 1911 and point, I'm always aiming a bit low. To be honest, Glock wasn't my first choice but I went to a range and rented 1911's, Beretta's, XD's, Sig's, H&K's, Walther's, etc. and the glock was the most natural feel for me, and the most accurate for me.

[faterikcartman]

Like I stated earlier, each person has different wrist motion range and a different point where their wrist feels neutral, the point where the shooter can maintain that wrist position without consciously exerting muscle force, in any given situation.

If someone feels that certain gun in certain grip angle does not point natraully for them in a certain situation, why are they nuts? Explain it.

If you're saying some people's wrist motion range is wrong or different I won't argue with you. I'm pretty sure, however, I was referring to people who say there is something wrong with the Glock's angle. Yep, just reread it, that's exactly what I said, and I stand by that. If you really need more explanation I'm going to cop out and say there are too many military and police forces in the world who do extensive testing and have concluded there is nothing wrong with the grip angle of a Glock. If you, on the other hand, think they're nuts, by all means you can explain.

[faterikcartman]

so I'm nuts because the gun points naturally for you and doesn't for me? good to know

Read my post above.

P.S., if you're a lefty you also have the devil in you!

[Grayblue]

If you're saying some people's wrist motion range is wrong or different I won't argue with you. I'm pretty sure, however, I was referring to people who say there is something wrong with the Glock's angle. Yep, just reread it, that's exactly what I said, and I stand by that. If you really need more explanation I'm going to cop out and say there are too many military and police forces in the world who do extensive testing and have concluded there is nothing wrong with the grip angle of a Glock. If you, on the other hand, think they're nuts, by all means you can explain.

Grip angle in this regard is not a matter of "wrong." It's a matter of suitability for each individual who may legitimately feel that it does not point naturally. If one says no one can point it natually, then they would be in the wrong.

Yes, there are number of military and police force that tested Glock and use them. But, it's not because they think the ergonomics would suit everyone. They just thought their members can still shoot it even if it does not feel natural for some, and that was "good enough."

[jdewolf]

My hands are between a medium and a large. A lot of medium gloves are too tight, and most large gloves are too big.

G17 fits my hand just fine, so I bought it. 20 & 21's are just a hair too large. Meaning to release the mag I have to shift my grip ever so slightly.

[Shenaniguns]

It feels right to me and I have medium sized hands, ask this 15yo girl if the size of Glock's grip or its angle deters her:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z6iXeaGVHY

[CalNRA]

if my wife can shoot a Glock 19(well), anyone can.

[OneSevenDeuce]

Well, my hypothesis was that hand size had something to do with people's perception of whether Glocks were any good, or that the grip angle was right/wrong. Looks like that was wrong. Back to the drawing board.