Improving Glock's pointability?

[viet4lifeOC]

Do we need to say practice with good techniques?

yes

[OneSevenDeuce]

yes

It begs the question. Would we ever say practice with bad techniques?

[nicoroshi]

I just got my first Glock ever,a G19 back in Feb. 2010. The first time out to the range with it, I did horrible, but as I keep going to the range, and trying different things. I am(slowly) getting better. It still seems to me, that I shoot left for some reason, and have to aim to the right to get the shots to hit in the center Maybe I need to get some better sights, as I have the stock ones still on the pistol.

Sounds like too much finger in the trigger to me.

Listen to the master.....
Todd Jarrett

[vta]

That is an excellent point. I can say that since I started shooting I have a little bit of fishing action going on when I push out and now I'm trying to correct it but now I just naturally fish my gun out...

that fishing technique would work great with a ruger 10/22 GAT trigger!

[viet4lifeOC]

It begs the question. Would we ever say practice with bad techniques?

I'm 5 months into the great hobby. When I go to the range, I bring along that bulleye chart to correct bad shot placement in my stall. I also use the champion visicolor targets, dirty bird, and shoot-n-c targets. It's expensive to use one target per 10 rounds, but I need it to clearly see where my shots are going to correct for it. I make it a habit not to go thru ammo mindlessly. Try to make my range time a learning experience each time. Paying attention what I am doing and how to correct for it. I watch Todd Jarret to pick up pointers well before I went to the range. He has a lot of great pointers, but the thing that stuck with me was CONSISTENT GRIP. At one point..there was so much to remember that I probably was practicing with bad technique. Now..spend the money..take it slow..make range time productive..practice with good technique.

I'd love for a time that comes where I can just use those paper target and be able to see all my shots. I don't know if it's my eye sight or inexperience, but I find it somewhat amazing for ppl to be able to see where their shots go on those paper targets. It's hard cause I am focusing on the front sight...pull the trigger..and 6-8 rounds later...I'm not sure where my shots are going. Poor memory . Any advice would be helpful..Changing target is as laborious as reloading 10 round mags

Do shooters actually see where their shots go on those paper targets?

[maddoggie13]

Aim the front sight higher than your other guns....

[shortround1]

Seriously.all this practice, practice, practice advice goes against the old advice of "pick a gun that fits your hands, try it out, shoot it first before buying."

If practice, practice, practice was all that's required...then why so many different flavors of guns with various grips out there.

I love my XD...but had no problem dremeling the hell out of it 1 week after getting it. made the grip circumference smaller and then stippled it with a hot solder gun for grip. LOVE IT NOW.

Practice is everything. You could be shooting your xd just as well with no modifications if you practice enough. My expensive sig feels amazing in my hand but I still shoot my glock better because I've used it more.

[blindluck]

It's strange that nobody mentioned the crimson trace laser grip. I have two g19's, one with and one without the LG-619 and it definitely points better with it. It's easily tested by closing your eyes and then bringing the gun up to an imaginary target and then opening your eyes. With the CT grip, it points much less high for me. It's still not quite like a 1911 but better than stock. However, the most important factor in shooting a particular platform better is not pointability but practice.

[BamBam-31]

I wonder how much you'd have to dremel off a G17 to make it point like an XD. I'm not talking about shaving off a bit here, stippling a bit there. Hell, I re-contoured my Ruger rimfire trigger guards, and even did my G19's. You'd have to fill the backstrap of a G17 w/ some type of resin/epoxy, THEN dremel the hell out of it to change the grip angle.

Btw, IIRC, Gaston put a lot of thought into the grip angle of his pistols and chose an angle that he considered natural, namely, that of the Luger. Now I gotta Google up where I read that....

[edge2002]

I'm 5 months into the great hobby. When I go to the range, I bring along that bulleye chart to correct bad shot placement in my stall. I also use the champion visicolor targets, dirty bird, and shoot-n-c targets. It's expensive to use one target per 10 rounds, but I need it to clearly see where my shots are going to correct for it. I make it a habit not to go thru ammo mindlessly. Try to make my range time a learning experience each time. Paying attention what I am doing and how to correct for it. I watch Todd Jarret to pick up pointers well before I went to the range. He has a lot of great pointers, but the thing that stuck with me was CONSISTENT GRIP. At one point..there was so much to remember that I probably was practicing with bad technique. Now..spend the money..take it slow..make range time productive..practice with good technique.

I'd love for a time that comes where I can just use those paper target and be able to see all my shots. I don't know if it's my eye sight or inexperience, but I find it somewhat amazing for ppl to be able to see where their shots go on those paper targets. It's hard cause I am focusing on the front sight...pull the trigger..and 6-8 rounds later...I'm not sure where my shots are going. Poor memory . Any advice would be helpful..Changing target is as laborious as reloading 10 round mags

Do shooters actually see where their shots go on those paper targets?

How far out are you placing the target?

[Günter]

Try out the Walther P99

[BamBam-31]

Here it is. An article from Chuck Hawks:

These Glock service pistols have several fundamental design advantages over most other semi-autos. For one, the grip angle is ergonomic, similar to that of the classic Luger pistol that was famous for its good pointing qualities. The Glock Safe Action trigger mechanism makes it possible to take full advantage of the inherent low recoil and muzzle flip of the Glock pistols. Once a Glock shooter has learned proper trigger control, double taps can be achieved faster than with almost any other pistol.

IIRC, the Ruger Mk. II, Steyr, and HK P7 series all have similar grip angles. Ever hear of anyone complaining that their P7's point high?

[vta]

Here it is. An article from Chuck Hawks:



IIRC, the Ruger Mk. II, Steyr, and HK P7 series all have similar grip angles. Ever hear of anyone complaining that their P7's point high?

that classic luger didn't fair to well against the 1911 in the 40's. I am gonna say its because of the grip angle

[BamBam-31]

Ha! Perhaps it was the caliber (9mm vs. .45).

[Günter]

I think the acute grip angle serves as a better pointer for one-handed shooting.
I find it more comfortable to shoot a more straight grip angle for two-handed shooting.