How many things are wrong with this?

[Cokebottle]

No matter, the question that actually matters is whether or not the kid is able to register it legally.

Correct.... which he is as long as it does not come back stolen.


BTW: I assume he is 21 or older?

[HighValleyRanch]

25

Yes, he is 25

[rugershooter]

No, he doesn't NEED 10 rounders unless he plans to purchase more.

It is illegal to import, manufacture, sell, or offer for sale, loan, or gift within California.
The law does not prohibit purchase or receipt other than it is illegal to sell or give.

Additionally, there is a 3 year statute of limitations.
If I bought a box of 33rd Glock mags from a gun show in AZ in 2007, I could today, post a photo of them and proclaim that I imported them and would be immune from prosecution.

Could you post a PC or case law or something proving it? I'm just curious, don't have any hi cap mags, pre ban or otherwise. Nor do I intend to illegally obtain any.

[faterikcartman]

Okay, so according to Cokebottle we've all been acting like chumps all this time. Instead of paying $35 to DROS a handgun and wait ten days, all we need to do is buy a pistol from someone and take it home on the spot, and send the DOJ $19 and the form cited above. That's it. I can't believe how much time and money I've wasted. Thanks for setting me straight.

Could we get this info as a sticky in the for sale section to save everyone a lot of hassle, time and money?

[Anchors]

A coworker of mine from back home (AZ) had a similar situation here.
I clued him in on it and he got freaked out and went back to AZ and sold his XD40 (with 16 round mags.)
I just told him to fill out the new resident form, but he got scared haha.

[Munk]

As far as dealing with the unregistered gun, i'd advise you to take the advise of people here with a grain of salt. much of what they say is correct, but the complications that could arise if the gun comes back stolen may be a real issue for your friend. i'd suggest he contact a lawyer who is proficient in gun laws (i think theres a few links around the calguns foundation page). I'm sure there's some nonsense about continuing crimes, recieving stolen property (maybe) and other issues that the lawyer could help him clear up.

(Lots of IANAL going around... even from me).

[Corbin Dallas]

Yes, he is 25

THIS ^^^^ IS a MAJOR issue.

Assuming he bought the gun after he was 21, there a few problems.

1 - Doing the math means he aquired the weapon in 2006

2 - If he did buy it in 2006, then he committed a crime accepting standard cap mags.

3 - If he did buy it in CA in 2006, then he clearly committed a crime by not transferring the firearm through a registered FFL


My suggestion for your "buddy" is to travel to the next gun show in Phoenix and stand in the sellers area with a sign "firearm for sale" and SELL IT out of CA.

Your buddy will need to record an AZ DL and write out a receipt of purchase to the new owner.

You're other option is to go on a fishing trip off the coast of CA (a few miles OUT or more) and "OOPS"!!!! I dropped my gun overboard...

[Foriegn power]

I laughed, about the suggestion to drop it overboard.

[Greg-Dawg]

No, he doesn't NEED 10 rounders unless he plans to purchase more.

It is illegal to import, manufacture, sell, or offer for sale, loan, or gift within California.
The law does not prohibit purchase or receipt other than it is illegal to sell or give.

Additionally, there is a 3 year statute of limitations.
If I bought a box of 33rd Glock mags from a gun show in AZ in 2007, I could today, post a photo of them and proclaim that I imported them and would be immune from prosecution.

So, I'm hearing two things from Cokebotella:

1. The illegal actions of high cap (standard) mags are only applicable when it's done INSIDE CA.
2. Go to AZ, buy high caps and bring them over to CA; therefore you're good to go. By having photos of your 33 rounds yesterday in AZ and bringing them here to CA today, you're on the LORD's side.

Hmmm...

[redcliff]

For those recommending he sell it in Arizona I have a question.

Isn't it illegal under federal law for a resident of one state to sell a handgun to a resident of another? I thought you could only sell handgun's to FFL's if you're out of state.

[challenger]

Pawn it (if it's a clean gun). About ten years ago a friend of mine bought a revolver off another friend. Due to conflicting schedules (most likely laziness) they never got around to transferring it. While in a bind for cash he pawned the gun and later he paid the loan, did the dros and now the gun is in his name. Not sure if the laws are the same but it did work.

[tEN wOLVES fIVE sHOOTER]

Howdy All

I was up against this issue a while back, when a hand gun was given to me by a co-worker, that belonged to his deceased father, also my Dads guns that needed to be registered after his passing, The staff at Turners Outdoorsman gave me these apps. this is the way you register a hand gun IF YOU ALREADY HAVE THE GUN IN YOUR POSSESSION . I hope this will help, it sure did in my case. These pages will copy just fine.

Regards

tEN wOLVES

[Corbin Dallas]

For those recommending he sell it in Arizona I have a question.

Isn't it illegal under federal law for a resident of one state to sell a handgun to a resident of another? I thought you could only sell handgun's to FFL's if you're out of state.

Just about as Illegal as purchasing a firearm in the State of CA without using a FFL to mediate the sale.

[Packy14]

He can go and register it...but sounds like there may be a good chance it was stolen. In which case, if he goes and reports it to the DOJ, it gets taken away.

Standard-cap mags aren't a problem if he purchased them(and the gun) before 2000. If not...there's another issue. Should probably disassemble it.

Misdemeanor if the guns his. Bigger problems if it turns up stolen.

An M1 Abrams would be better, but a .40 is better than bare hands or a knife.

He did NOT need to own the gun..just high cap mags before 2000. He could have had wet dreams about owning a gun and bought the mags first.

[WWDHD?]

I'm no lawyer, but...

Just inquiring about this guns history with the authorities could be trouble. I would clean & oil it, put it and the mags in a ziplock bag with some dessicant packs, then seal it into a large PVC pipe. Bury it at least 3ft (don't forget where!) and wait for the fall of western civilization, giant asteroid, class 4 zombie outbreak, or some other event where this guns history doesn't matter anymore. Keep your mouth shut about its existance (seriously!).
Then go out and buy a legit gun the right way. Have fun with it, learn to be safe and legal with it. The $500+ for a clean gun will be much cheaper than the cost of the trouble this outlaw gun will cost you.
I wish you luck.