When to Draw

[clickbang]

***THIS THREAD IS NOT INTENDED TO PROVIDE OR ASK FOR LEGAL ADVICE***

What do you guys think is the minimum amount of provocation needed to draw and/or use your weapon in public? I know what the law states, but how do some of you interpret "a reasonable person in a similar situation...."

If someone verbally threatens you harm but possesses no weapon?
If someone verbally threatens you with a weapon?
If someone starts a fist fight with you?
etc

Lets hear your thoughts.

[Tony.]

When you are in fear for your life.

If you draw, you better be ready and willing to use the weapon

[clickbang]

Can you justify an unarmed assailant verbally threatening you harm to be in fear for your life?

[Wyatt]

no, not until he makes a physical life threatening aggressive move.

[fd15k]

Can you justify an unarmed assailant verbally threatening you harm to be in fear for your life?

You have to be in immediate fear for your life or great bodily harm. Verbal threats alone don't count.

[CABilly]

Can you justify an unarmed assailant verbally threatening you harm to be in fear for your life?

How do you know he's unarmed? Even if he has no weapon, if he's within arm's reach he can potentially kill you or cause great bodily injury.

Best to just avoid such situations.

[spencerhut]

When you are in fear for your life.

If you draw, you better be ready and willing to use the weapon

+1 Nothing further need be added.

If you can't make these two decisions, don't carry.

[boredin818]

When to draw...

6:45am Saturday morning... your only day off...... Loud persistant knocking on the door......open the door... "HELLO SIR... ARE YOU PREPARED FOR THE RETURN OF (Insert religious leader here)

[QuarterBoreGunner]

NOW!

No seriously, they drum this into us at CCW qual; only if you are fear of death or great physical harm to yourself or loved ones.

AND only if a reasonable person would agree that the offender had the intent AND the ability to do so.

The guy behind the 20' chainlink fence with the knife that says he's going to kill you? Nope.

Etc, etc....

[clickbang]

NOW!

No seriously, they drum this into us at CCW qual; only if you are fear of death or great physical harm to yourself or loved ones.

AND only if a reasonable person would agree that the offender had the intent AND the ability to do so.

The guy behind the 20' chainlink fence with the knife that says he's going to kill you? Nope.

Etc, etc....

That is the type of response that I am looking for. Anyone else??

[choprzrul]

When you get that feeling that you might not make it home alive tonight, it is time to draw.

[Uriah02]

When I fear for my life or the life of others around me. It has to get physical despite my efforts to defuse the situation.

[QuarterBoreGunner]

Oh and another thing they teach is to be aware of reciprocal force; that is, if someone threatens you with their fists, would a prudent and reasonable person agree that it's threat of death or great physical injury?
It's a lot to have to think about in, as the high speed, low drag guys say, a "fluid and dynamic situation."

[boredin818]

NOW!

No seriously, they drum this into us at CCW qual; only if you are fear of death or great physical harm to yourself or loved ones.

AND only if a reasonable person would agree that the offender had the intent AND the ability to do so.

The guy behind the 20' chainlink fence with the knife that says he's going to kill you? Nope.

Etc, etc....

When deciding to draw or not.. ... is there a minimum distance that you have in your head that you will let someone get before drawing?

[domeshotjuan2]

verbal conflict walk away

about to be physical you should of walked away along time ago. but if you can run away i would

true physical altercation and you have no where to go i'de pull it if he/she knocks you out and takes your gun your f***ed

i have no ccw but just my opinion. if you can leave without leaving someone else in harms way of the assailent get out. california is not the state to stand your ground without extreme cause. again just my opinion