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  • #31
    avidone
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2005
    • 946

    Originally posted by Jason_R
    Yes, but the $2750 gun has been altered.

    I could just keep it...it's not like the value's going down.
    Actually it has not. A spare barrel was de-threaded and the original comes with it so it actually comes with two barrels.
    Originally posted by ViPER395
    Surrender yourself and your vessel..........Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.
    Originally posted by pnkssbtz
    In short, there is no justice. It is a commodity sold to the highest bidder.

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    • #32
      bwiese
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Oct 2005
      • 27621

      Jason,

      I suggest that this commercial enterprise and your clear profit seeking -while IMHO questionable - are more appropriately placed in the For Sale category, since this seems to be more of a "I got XXX for sale" than asking true questions...

      Bill Wiese
      San Jose, CA

      CGF Board Member / NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA life member
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      • #33
        DrjonesUSA
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 4701

        Jason:

        I suggest you tread extremely carefully.

        First, it is a fact that the CA DOJ monitors this forum, so it's very likely that this thread has already been read by a DOJ employee.

        Next, based on my understanding of the law, and I well could be wrong, it is NOT legal for an individual to import what are supposed to be "personal" firearms with the intention of selling them.

        Again, check the law for yourself, but I don't think what you are proposing is legal.

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        • #34
          Jason_R
          Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 379

          Gotchya...

          I don't intend to sell it. I was just curious to see what the market was like if I had to sell it after I move. Thanks for the advice.

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          • #35
            Astig Boy
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2006
            • 1016

            Making a profit is one thing, but trying to rape one of us Californians is a insult IMO. Couple hundred bucks, sure thats fair...but $1000?...man please...

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            • #36
              Jason_R
              Member
              • Apr 2006
              • 379

              Originally posted by Astig Boy
              Making a profit is one thing, but trying to rape one of us Californians is a insult IMO. Couple hundred bucks, sure thats fair...but $1000?...man please...
              Wasn't trying to "rape" you all I was doing is trying to see the Market value for one. If you think anything is priced too high then don't buy it, no one is forcing you to.

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              • #37
                Hunter
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Mar 2006
                • 1759

                Originally posted by Jason_R
                ...Tan Mark 23s are retarded and noone wants one.
                How do you know this to be true?

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                • #38
                  Jason_R
                  Member
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 379

                  Originally posted by Hunter
                  How do you know this to be true?
                  I suspect that they are not in popular demand due to the fact that they are the only new in box ones left, and they are cheaper than their black counterpart.

                  Check out hkpro.com

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                  • #39
                    monkey
                    Member
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 221

                    Originally posted by Jason_R
                    I suspect that they are not in popular demand due to the fact that they are the only new in box ones left, and they are cheaper than their black counterpart.

                    Check out hkpro.com
                    You should really do your homework on a number of levels.

                    Pricing: These are not being made anymore because they did not sell well at $1900 MSRP. No one is or will be buying these at your $3000 and up prices. While California is a bit of a different market, you aren't providing anyone with anything they couldn't have bought from '97 through '99 if they wanted one.

                    Legality: It's a federal felony for a non-licensee for buy a firearm with the intent of immediate and profitable resale. Multiply that by the number of guns purchased, then sold, and that's what you are vulnerable to. It's also a state felony to import unlisted handguns into the state with the intent of resale. Same deal.

                    Deleting Incriminating Posts: While some sites allow you to edit your posts, I don't believe Calguns is one of them. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but your posts are permanent unless deleted by the moderator. And if this is the case, you are on-record with your intentions, unalterably so. While you have in fact stated you "have no plans to resell it," you are clearly talking about the pricing and desirabllity of a gun which you do not yet own to people in a state you have not yet moved to. It's not a very clever ruse.

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                    • #40
                      bwiese
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 27621

                      Originally posted by monkey
                      While you have in fact stated you "have no plans to resell it," you are clearly talking about the pricing and desirabllity of a gun which you do not yet own to people in a state you have not yet moved to. It's not a very clever ruse.
                      Yeah, this thread is lame.

                      I do 12125PC et seq believe unsafe handgun stuff is misdemeanor though.

                      Bill Wiese
                      San Jose, CA

                      CGF Board Member / NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA life member
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                      No postings of mine here, unless otherwise specifically noted, are
                      to be construed as formal or informal positions of the Calguns.Net
                      ownership, The Calguns Foundation, Inc. ("CGF"), the NRA, or my
                      employer. No posts of mine on Calguns are to be construed as
                      legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                      • #41
                        DrjonesUSA
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 4701

                        Originally posted by monkey
                        You should really do your homework on a number of levels.

                        Pricing: These are not being made anymore because they did not sell well at $1900 MSRP. No one is or will be buying these at your $3000 and up prices. While California is a bit of a different market, you aren't providing anyone with anything they couldn't have bought from '97 through '99 if they wanted one.

                        Did you read what you wrote?

                        You just said that he's not providing anyone with anything of use, provided they all have time machines and could go back to 1997 and buy it.

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                        • #42
                          Astig Boy
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 1016

                          Originally posted by Jason_R
                          Wasn't trying to "rape" you all I was doing is trying to see the Market value for one. If you think anything is priced too high then don't buy it, no one is forcing you to.
                          Your not here looking to gain info, but to bait California members to see if we will bite. Whos to say you wont go out and buy 4-5 Mark 23s and sell them at your premium. Thats a pretty good chunk of change youll gain.

                          Originally posted by bwiese
                          Yeah, this thread is lame.

                          I do 12125PC et seq believe unsafe handgun stuff is misdemeanor though.
                          Which is why threads like this should be locked or deleted. This is, in a sense, illegal activity of what the thread starter intends to do.
                          Last edited by Astig Boy; 02-16-2007, 5:42 PM.

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                          • #43
                            monkey
                            Member
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 221

                            Originally posted by DrjonesUSA
                            Did you read what you wrote?

                            You just said that he's not providing anyone with anything of use, provided they all have time machines and could go back to 1997 and buy it.
                            I mean to say they probably would have bought one in 99 if they really wanted one. It was too much then at $1900 and at his price of $3000 today it's 30% more "too expensive".

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                            • #44
                              m1371
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 1118

                              Looks like our enterprising little "gun dealer to be" decided to sell elsewhere.

                              Surprisingly enough, he's not asking for $3000+ either.

                              Learning without thought is labor lost, thought without learning is perilous. -Foamy

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                              • #45
                                Jason_R
                                Member
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 379

                                It's a free world. I can sell it where I want. You act like I'm an evil person if I decide to sell it inside California at a premium. Capitalism at it's best...

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