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  • #46
    Hop Sing
    Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 456

    It could also be caused by limp wristing while shooting the 19. Shoot more thru the gun and break it in. From the photo your gun look wet with lube. The Glock should appear dry when properly lubed. The gun only needs a few drops as described in the manual and here on the board.

    Hope it helps, let us know if this occurs again.
    Glock, Smith and Wesson M&P, Colt 1911, Colt AR15 &
    HK Factory Certified Armorer
    Ventura County Certified CCW Instructor

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    • #47
      BamBam-31
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      • Dec 2005
      • 5318

      If Glock gave your pistol a clean bill of health, I'd say it's worth the $60. Peace of mind and all. Maybe it was just a break-in quirk. Can you still drop the striker w/ the slide pulled back? If so, ditto the Glock armorer suggestion above.

      I hope your experience thus far does not spoil your view of the G19 in particular and Glocks in general. They're usually fantastic pistols.
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      • #48
        pinwheels
        Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 313

        Forgive me if I missed this, but from the original description, it sounds very similar to the one described in this thread.

        The key question is: "When you felt the gun cycle, did the trigger reset?"

        I'm the perpetrator of the above thread, and it had me going for weeks. I'm still not sure I totally understand how the slide can cycle and chamber a round without resetting the trigger, unless it has to do with the harmonics of the gun during a fairly violent event. In any event, I had similar symptoms: round in the chamber with a light, off-center primer strike, and no trigger reset. The Glock armorer at a GSSF match said "recoil spring" and replaced it. I've gone another 2-3K rounds since then with only two such events. The first time, I had 6 within maybe 3 boxes.

        I'll admit I had been storing the gun with the slide locked back, and had put about 2000 rds though it in 6 months. Yours starting new sounds weird, but (if Glock didn't already do it), put in a new guide rod and spring. Way too cheap to not try.

        In the thread mentioned above, I think I noted that I'd had a few "full auto" second rounds early on, and it's possible that this was the cause, however there was never any indication that it was not going fully into battery. The only indication I had on the ones I could diagnose after the fact was that the slide was fully in battery, a round chambered, and the trigger locked back. I think you're ok, but do try the recoil spring replacement.

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        • #49
          sammy
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 3847

          Originally posted by BamBam-31
          If Glock gave your pistol a clean bill of health, I'd say it's worth the $60. Peace of mind and all. Maybe it was just a break-in quirk. Can you still drop the striker w/ the slide pulled back? If so, ditto the Glock armorer suggestion above.

          I hope your experience thus far does not spoil your view of the G19 in particular and Glocks in general. They're usually fantastic pistols.
          Yes the striker will drop when the slode is pulled back. That problem remains. I am going to shoot the snot out of it with factory ammo and see if it happens again. If it is OK I will start reloading for it and see what happens. Sammy

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          • #50
            sammy
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 3847

            Originally posted by pinwheels
            Forgive me if I missed this, but from the original description, it sounds very similar to the one described in this thread.

            The key question is: "When you felt the gun cycle, did the trigger reset?"

            I'm the perpetrator of the above thread, and it had me going for weeks. I'm still not sure I totally understand how the slide can cycle and chamber a round without resetting the trigger, unless it has to do with the harmonics of the gun during a fairly violent event. In any event, I had similar symptoms: round in the chamber with a light, off-center primer strike, and no trigger reset. The Glock armorer at a GSSF match said "recoil spring" and replaced it. I've gone another 2-3K rounds since then with only two such events. The first time, I had 6 within maybe 3 boxes.

            I'll admit I had been storing the gun with the slide locked back, and had put about 2000 rds though it in 6 months. Yours starting new sounds weird, but (if Glock didn't already do it), put in a new guide rod and spring. Way too cheap to not try.

            In the thread mentioned above, I think I noted that I'd had a few "full auto" second rounds early on, and it's possible that this was the cause, however there was never any indication that it was not going fully into battery. The only indication I had on the ones I could diagnose after the fact was that the slide was fully in battery, a round chambered, and the trigger locked back. I think you're ok, but do try the recoil spring replacement.


            Thanks for the info. The problems look similar except mine has only had the one failure and has never gone full auto thank god. I will look into a new recoil spring assembly and see if it helps. I am going to head out to the range friday and put 100 or so downrange and see what happens. Sammy

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            • #51
              CHS
              Moderator Emeritus
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jan 2008
              • 11338

              Originally posted by pinwheels
              I'll admit I had been storing the gun with the slide locked back, and had put about 2000 rds though it in 6 months.
              Side question: What is your reason for storing the gun with the slide locked back?
              Please read the Calguns Wiki
              Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
              --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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              • #52
                pinwheels
                Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 313

                Originally posted by bdsmchs
                Side question: What is your reason for storing the gun with the slide locked back?
                Full-on case of cranius rectus insertus. Didn't have a gun safe, so was leaving the high security cable lock (DOJ says it is, and I believe them) installed.

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                • #53
                  AJD
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 575

                  Originally posted by sammy
                  Yes the striker will drop when the slode is pulled back. That problem remains.
                  I don't think that's the problem. Again, many Glocks I've seen can do this, and in fact other makes of pistols can do it to some degree. The problem is the pistol not going fully into battery. Even if Glock somehow fixed it so it was impossible to fire out of battery, then what? The gun wouldn't be going into battery and you would still have a malfunction. If Glock says its good, then maybe, as mentioned, it was just a break in quirk. If you really want extra piece of mind you could always add an extra power recoil spring to help the slide close with more strength. Also, I would continue shooting the winchester factory ammo while breaking it in, as the win primers are not as sensitive as say Federal. So if you do have another out of battery fire, at least it will be less likely to go off with an offcenter strike.

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                  • #54
                    walter
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 1048

                    i have a G19C, when i pull back the slide a little, i mean very little, the striker will drop and the slide will go forward. anything more than your photo and it wont.
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