Is this normal for a Glock? *UPDATE post 43*

[ghost]

have bigmac at irvington arms check it for you,he`s a glock certified armorer.

[krim]

what's that white'ish line below the Glock logo and serial? I hope that's not a crack

[hkdad]

that is NOT normal. pls don't fire the gun. bring it to a certified glock armorer ASAP.

[Sky_DiveR]

I just looked at all my semi's (don't have a Glock, tho) and none of them will drop the hammer if the slide moves just a hair out of battery. Is this normal in a Glock? Or even a well-used Glock? I've heard of the dreaded Glock KB but never seen or been around one (thank god!). Could it be a disconnector problem letting you drop the hammer too soon? Glock owners and/or armorers speak up. I'm really curious about this.

[AJD]

I just looked at all my semi's (don't have a Glock, tho) and none of them will drop the hammer if the slide moves just a hair out of battery. Is this normal in a Glock? Or even a well-used Glock? I've heard of the dreaded Glock KB but never seen or been around one (thank god!). Could it be a disconnector problem letting you drop the hammer too soon? Glock owners and/or armorers speak up. I'm really curious about this.

It really depends on the individual gun. I've seen some Glocks that won't do it, but some (my G21 is one) that are capable of doing it. I guess it's just a matter of tolerances. Fwiw, I talked with someone at the range one day who works for L.A.P.D and he stated the infamous G21 faillure to fire problems some of their officers had were caused by high primer strikes. Of course that's all hersay. IMO, it's imperative to keep the weapon clean, even though it is a Glock and some people think they need no maintenance. Also a weak recoil spring or even a striker spring that is too strong and thus it works against the recoil spring makes this more likely. I've swaped to a non-captive recoil rod and spring with 19# rating for peace of mind.

[sammy]

Well the gun was super clean. I ran a brush down the barrel and lubed the barrel hood with a drop of oil before firing. Will an out of spec disconnector cause the problem? I have an extra on hand and could try it if that is a possibility.

[BamBam-31]

Glock factory or certified armorer. Period.

[sammy]

I just put another factory disconnector in the gun and it still fires out of battery.

Will Glock send a call tag or do I need to eat the shipping back to them?

[AJD]

I'm not sure about shipping to Glock, maybe someone will chime in with their experience. I would call them asap though.

Btw, even if the new disconnector stopped the gun from being able to fire out of battery, you would still have the issue of the gun not going fully into battery. So while the gun would not fire in that instance (and that's a good thing) you still would have a gun that would not be functioning in that instance. And a brand new gun, with a new recoil spring, that is also clean, should be going into full battery every time.

[PLINK]

After I got the gun home I crept the slide back and saw just how far the gun would drop the striker out of battery. Here is a pict of the furthest back the slide would go and still drop the striker. Is this normal for a Glock? I think I got very lucky the round did not fire and it has me worried. Ammo used is WWB 115g. The round's OAL is 1.163 and the crimp is .374.

Is their a problem here or should I send it back to Glock?

So you are forcing it out of battery by holding the slide back by hand and then you are pulling the trigger?

When you pull the trigger does the slide want to move forward?

If this is what you are doing I can duplicate it with my Glock 19, 26 and 22.

If you are worried about it get it looked at. To me, the round in the picture did not go off when out of battery = a good thing. I would expect to see some kind of hit on the primer as shown in the picture.

I may be completely wrong but this is how I see the situation.

[NewbieDave]

For the OP and anyone else that's shooting WWB.

FYI... I'm assuming that the ammo you're using is WWB, if not... ignore my post. I shoot IDPA and a lot of the shooters use WWB. In the last 6 months, I have witnessed 6 (one was my own) separate incident where a round had failed to fire after a good hit on the primer. Opening the round, there's powder in it and the primer looks good. Re-striker the primer doesn't do anything.

All incidents were 9mm WWB value packs. I don't have the lot number to compare... but I would assume that WRA had a bad lot of primers.

Just my 2 cent.

~dpc

[SJgunguy24]

The other option is to take it to a GSSF event. There's always someone there that can help you with your Glock.

When is the next GSSF event? L.C. is open 6 days a week.

have bigmac at irvington arms check it for you,he`s a glock certified armorer.

IIRC L.C. is not supposed to charge for any servicing if the issue is safety related. I think it's a deal they have with Glock, if you seen the prices you'de crap yourself. The exact gun anywhere else will be at least 100$ more.

[sammy]

So you are forcing it out of battery by holding the slide back by hand and then you are pulling the trigger?

When you pull the trigger does the slide want to move forward?

If this is what you are doing I can duplicate it with my Glock 19, 26 and 22.

If you are worried about it get it looked at. To me, the round in the picture did not go off when out of battery = a good thing. I would expect to see some kind of hit on the primer as shown in the picture.

I may be completely wrong but this is how I see the situation.

Yes, I am forcing the slide back and when I pull the trigger the slide does jump foward.

[duc748bip]

My old G23 does that when i shot it with one hand. my mentor told me i have a limp wrist. holding it abit more firmly solve the problem but about after 500rd it went away.

[CHS]

Shoot another 500 rounds through the gun, and provide another update.

Ok, seriously, why in the world would you *EVER* think this is a good idea?

*NO* firearm is safe to operate while it will fire out of battery. Period.

To recommend that someone fire FIVE HUNDRED rounds out of a firearm that will drop it's hammer/striker out of battery is just plain reckless endangerment.