Thoughts on glock 29?

[Oceanbob]

[naz]

[hambam105]

If you have the money and, and...strong enough to handle the 10mm I'd go for it.

[Koval33]

Wants are not crazy. Don't be the one laying there wearing a diaper and dribbling and wondering why when you wanted something you could afford you didn't act.

One person's heavy recoiling ugly and hard to shoot gun is someone else's dream. I try to follow this advice, "if you didn't ask someone you didn't know if you should marry your now wife then why ask someone if you should buy a gun?"

Quality guns rarely lose value or so little it doesn't matter much. If you want a 10mm Glock, go get it and enjoy it. If it turns out you don't like it, so what, you know for sure. If there was a 10mm Glock local to me, new or like new I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

I completely agree man, I'm the kind of guy that would rather enjoy something in the moment than save the time/money and wonder why I didn't many years later. I like to take chances on things if there's a chance I could gain something valuable out of it whether that's experience, fun or something material. It's why I went hunting for a P99 instead of settling for a nice easy to find M&P 9. Also why would it matter if the gun were local? The Glock 10mms are all on roster so you could just order one, or am I mistaken in thinking that?

With 10 round mag limitations in Kalifornia, a Glock 29SF is a good choice for concealed or open carry in the backcountry. For urban CCW, not so much.

The problem with choosing a Glock 29 over something like the Glock 23 is size. The Glock 29 has a bigger frame and slide than the 23, so it makes it harder to conceal. It also weighs more.

For purely open carry, I prefer the full size Glock 20.

But for what you're considering using it for, it's a good choice.

I've seen people say this, that the Glock 29 isn't really small, but to me it seems pretty diminutive. I'm not a small guy (6 feet, 190 lb) so I don't think it would make a huge difference if the frame and slide were a little bit bigger or heavier, it'd still be a compact pistol in my eyes. I've never carried one though so I have no idea.

No, it's not true.

The bullet doesn't matter. The shot placement does. You miss a bunch with a 10mm, and it's easier to miss with 10mm, you're going to fare just as poorly. I have never in my life seen a guy shooting a 10mm in a class or at a match, and I've been to plenty of them. Which means these G29 guys only exist on gun forums and gun stores. Which doesn't bode well for their ability to hit what they're aiming at.

357 Sig doesn't even exist any more in the real world. Fall out of love with esoteric calibers and fall into love with training and making yourself harder to kill.

Well, if bullet doesn't matter why don't we all just carry 22s? I think it matters to some degree although I agree that training and shot placement are king. If you have a high caliber weapon you can barely control you're far more likely to get yourself or some bystander killed than to properly defend yourself. Also what did you mean by 357 sig not existing in the real world? I've read that plenty of law enforcement agencies use it. Falling in love with training is certainly a smart proposition however; I'll reiterate that my ability to use a weapon properly will always supersede the weapon itself. It seems like common sense.

I like my Glock 20 and I plan to pick up a 29 at some point.

Good to know, definitely makes me more interested.

I love the fact 357 sig doesn't exist any more in the real world, I am buying boxes upon boxes of 357 sig ammo right now for less than the cost of 9mm. I will gladly take my non existent gun into bear country, would you take a weak little 9mm into bear country?

It's cheaper than 9mm? Damn that is a big selling point on the G33 (or a G29 with the conversion barrel )

disagree...I can make a bigger handgun out of my G33 but I cant make a smaller handgun from a G32. I like the grip much, much better on the G33 with a G32 mag and X-Grip magazine slide on than any Glock compact or any compact. The versatility of the Glock sub compacts are tough to match, my G33 can be a G32 compact size and have option of 3 different calibers. If I want my wife to use it I drop in the 9mm barrel and the G26 mags with Pierce pinky extender. If I am backpacking I put in a G32 barrel, the G32 mags and X-Grip load it with Underwood 357 sig FMJ flat nosed bullets and 600 lbs ME. Crazy versatile.

Right that's a great point, versatility is something desirable in a weapon regardless of one's preference for one caliber or another. Would I love my P99 more if I could drop in a .40 barrel and shoot that as well? Hell yes I would.

Thanks Bob for your testimony about the 10mm Glocks. It's great to get some info from a long time owner as that helps me ascertain the reliability and long term dependability of these firearms. Flexibility with ammo is a big selling point for me, in that I can just use light loads for self defense and hot loads for hiking/camping. I've heard people say .40 is snappy in the P99 and that is one reason why I preferred the 9mm, but the beefier Glock seems like it would be more stable and user friendly with .40 or light 10mm.

You've pinpointed one of my main conclusions man. It's a cheap, easily replaceable, easily resellable gun. My Walther was an investment, this would just be an inexpensive little experiment in larger caliber compact handguns.

If you have the money and, and...strong enough to handle the 10mm I'd go for it.

I'm 190 lbs and do 5 sets of 15-20 chinups and pullups for exercise (gyms are closed and so I work out at the playground lol). I also use a 7 lb gripmaster regularly. Think I could handle it?

[jeremiah12]

You can shoot .40 out of the stock barrel. I did this on a whim because I got a very good deal on the KKM barrel and I wanted to see if it affected the accuracy. When I shoot the .40, I have to insert the stock, 17 lb recoil spring so it will cycle the ammo reliably so I keep the two together in my range bag.

When I purchased my G29 I also purchased a G30. It was the last year of purchasing off-roster pistols under SSE and I was working a second job so I could buy a gun every 30 days. I was not sure if I would really like either one but I figured if I did not I could always sell them. The FFL I purchased them from was selling them for the regular price, the same as in free states.

I shot both and I found that the G29 was easier for me to shoot. I first learned to shoot it without the +1 Pearce extension. And I did invest in classes and some private, one on one instruction. I was always more accurate with the G29 than the G30 so the G30 has just been sitting in the safe since then.

I then purchased the 21 lb recoil spring and it softened the felt recoil with the hot loads. The Pearce +1 made it easier to control because I could hold it with three fingers and it quickly became my favorite range toy.

Contrary to the one nay sayer here, until the ammo shortage, I do go to the range twice a month and I do shoot from 200-500 rounds through it each time. More than half of those rounds are hot 10 mm rounds and I only have a couple a flyers at most.

I do conceal carry it with a G20 mag and an X-grip when I have the proper clothing to do so. That gives me 15+1 rounds and with all the training I have done, I am confident that my shot placement will be just as good as it would be with my G26 or G19.

It conceals much better than a G20 would.

When I move to a free state by the summer of 2022 I will buy a G40.

At my local gun range, I have had friendly competitions with those guys that swear by their 1911s and .45s when they see me shooting my G19 so I pull out my G29 and they do shut up when I shoot a tighter group than they do with their fancy 1911.

I do suggest trying before you buy. If I lived near you I would let you shoot mine but I live far north of you. I just recently picked up 200 rounds of 10 mm from my LGS for normal pre-covid prices so I plan to take it shooting soon.

[LkPillsburyDude]

I shoot my brothers 29 as well as my old g20. Get one. Oh and how do I block people?

[Oceanbob]

Here is your problem, you are talking about people you do not know. You have no idea how much training I have had. You have no idea how fast my follow up shots are with my G29. I have had the training with private and experienced instructors who also helped me set up my firearm to fit my hands and my needs. Shooting a subcompact or compact firearm well takes a lot of training a skill.

There are many members here who have had more training and practice than the average LEO has had.

So stop your constant critisizing and if you cannot add something productive please stay out of it.

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Exactly..^^^^^.
First off I will say people with old eyes like the ghost ring setup.
I am one of those people.
Second many of us were trained (Gunsite 1980 when the 1911 was the hot ticket) many have trained others (I’am a former NRA instructor) and many have used our handgun to kill an armed perpetrator.


Training pays off.

Bob

NRA curriculum is old hat. I am not aware of any current and vetted instructors that openly advocate for a ghost ring sight on a pistol. Even for "old eyes", I don't know how obscuring your sight picture depending on the context aids in shooting.

This is aside from arguing about the efficacy of carrying a noisy cricket for an urban setting. If someone can legitimately shoot a compact 10MM, great. But there's a lot more to shooting than slow string bullseye B-8's or pie plates at an NRA qual.

[Kestryll]

Let's continue this without jessegpressley's nonsense...

[heidad01]

Jesse got nuked out of this thread's orbit.

[Koval33]

I shoot my brothers 29 as well as my old g20. Get one. Oh and how do I block people?

Thanks for the encouragement haha. I don't know how to block but it's easy enough to report.

You can shoot .40 out of the stock barrel. I did this on a whim because I got a very good deal on the KKM barrel and I wanted to see if it affected the accuracy. When I shoot the .40, I have to insert the stock, 17 lb recoil spring so it will cycle the ammo reliably so I keep the two together in my range bag.

When I purchased my G29 I also purchased a G30. It was the last year of purchasing off-roster pistols under SSE and I was working a second job so I could buy a gun every 30 days. I was not sure if I would really like either one but I figured if I did not I could always sell them. The FFL I purchased them from was selling them for the regular price, the same as in free states.

I shot both and I found that the G29 was easier for me to shoot. I first learned to shoot it without the +1 Pearce extension. And I did invest in classes and some private, one on one instruction. I was always more accurate with the G29 than the G30 so the G30 has just been sitting in the safe since then.

I then purchased the 21 lb recoil spring and it softened the felt recoil with the hot loads. The Pearce +1 made it easier to control because I could hold it with three fingers and it quickly became my favorite range toy.

Contrary to the one nay sayer here, until the ammo shortage, I do go to the range twice a month and I do shoot from 200-500 rounds through it each time. More than half of those rounds are hot 10 mm rounds and I only have a couple a flyers at most.

I do conceal carry it with a G20 mag and an X-grip when I have the proper clothing to do so. That gives me 15+1 rounds and with all the training I have done, I am confident that my shot placement will be just as good as it would be with my G26 or G19.

It conceals much better than a G20 would.

When I move to a free state by the summer of 2022 I will buy a G40.

At my local gun range, I have had friendly competitions with those guys that swear by their 1911s and .45s when they see me shooting my G19 so I pull out my G29 and they do shut up when I shoot a tighter group than they do with their fancy 1911.

I do suggest trying before you buy. If I lived near you I would let you shoot mine but I live far north of you. I just recently picked up 200 rounds of 10 mm from my LGS for normal pre-covid prices so I plan to take it shooting soon.

Thanks for all the info and your review of the gun, good to know about the 17 lb spring being necessary for .40 ammo. I've checked the CA gun roster and all the Glock 10mms are on there, am I missing something about you referring to them as non-roster? I'd really like to just get a gun store to order one for me. Also is there a reason you chose the 21 lb spring over the 23 lb spring?

That you can feel as confident with the 10 as you would with a 9mm given enough training makes me feel much more encouraged about this idea. I would never plan on depending on a weapon that I haven't trained with. Thank you for your willingness to let me shoot though. It really sucks that we live far apart as I don't think I'll have a chance to try one. I've checked numerous ranges and none of them seem to have the G29, only the G20. That being said, I think in the worst case scenario if I buy it and don't like it I can just resell it for close to the price and maybe be out ~$100.

I don't have money for both, so I went this route. G29 with G20 mags and grip extensions. Basically a G20 with a shorter barrel, and I can always carry with the smaller G29 mags if I choose.

That's exactly what I was planning on doing. I wanted to run it with the extension so that it'd basically be a more concealable G20. And I like the looks much more than the G20 for whatever reason. Hopefully when the large cap magazine ban is lifted I'll be able to use G20 mags with it too.

Let's continue this without jessegpressley's nonsense...

Thanks for your moderation. At first I thought he was just being insistent about training advice but then he just started calling everyone an fudd boomer who doesn't know how to shoot. Pretty obnoxious and rude. Sad that an innocent thread about a teeny weeny Glock could attract such nonsense

[jeremiah12]

Thanks for all the info and your review of the gun, good to know about the 17 lb spring being necessary for .40 ammo. I've checked the CA gun roster and all the Glock 10mms are on there, am I missing something about you referring to them as non-roster? I'd really like to just get a gun store to order one for me. Also is there a reason you chose the 21 lb spring over the 23 lb spring?

Gen 4 Glocks are not on the roster. I am a lefty and I wanted the Gen 4 so I could switch the mag release to the right side. I also have large hands for my size and I thought the back straps would be nice. It turned out the G29 fits my hands perfectly without any added back straps.

You may want to check out the G29sf before you buy. It has a slimmer grip.

The G29 comes with a 17 lb recoil spring and many consider that too light. When I was researching on the net I came across a few stories where a few frames sustained damage after shooting a few thousand rounds of hot 10mm rounds. The supposed cause was the 17 lb recoil spring was not enough.

I then bought a 19 lb and 21 lb spring and the 19 lb spring felt much like the 17 lb spring. I then tried the 21 lb spring and it noticably softened the recoil and all my 10mm ammo still cycled reliably.

I later read that many have had good luck with 23 lb springs. I have not done that because the 21 lb works for me and I do not want to spend the money for something that may or may not work.

The 21 lb spring does not cycle the .40 ammo reliably so I switch springs when I shoot that.

Full disclosure, I got into the shooting sports after suffering a stroke (11 years ago this April). It paralyzed my left side. Before the stroke I was ambidextrous. For years after I could not do many things with my right hand and so that is why I wanted Gen 4 Glocks.

It took 2 years of rehab to recover to the point I could return to work. I realized I needed to learn to use handguns for self-defense. I grew up shooting rifles. I picked up the G29 as a bear gun because I am a biology teacher and a former field biologist. So on my breaks I often go to Yellowstone, Glacier, and other places that is grizzly country and I wanted a bear gun. I have never needed to use a gun in a grizzly encounter in my now 60 years of life, but I would rather have and not need it than not have and wish I had it that one time.

When I found out I preferred it over the G30 initially, I spent money on getting training with it. I have some arthritis in my hands and some weakness in my wrists. With the 21 lb spring, it is close to my limit to rack the slide but I can. The day after shooting it my wrists are sore. To me it is worth it.

It is the fun factor. It puts a smile on my face.

I do have a grip ball that I have been using daily and it seems to be helping.

I also have a 6" KKM 2 ported barrel for range use. It is fun and makes follow up shots even faster. When I get time to reload, I will use it when I load lead rounds.

[ar15robert]

10mm is a great round but personally I wouldn’t bother with it for home defense or ccw. So with that said I went with a g20 a few years ago my main purpose was for a camping gun or outdoors carry so preferred the larger.

[9Cal_OC]

I agree.

OP, have you tried a G30?

[Koval33]

Gen 4 Glocks are not on the roster. I am a lefty and I wanted the Gen 4 so I could switch the mag release to the right side. I also have large hands for my size and I thought the back straps would be nice. It turned out the G29 fits my hands perfectly without any added back straps.

You may want to check out the G29sf before you buy. It has a slimmer grip.

The G29 comes with a 17 lb recoil spring and many consider that too light. When I was researching on the net I came across a few stories where a few frames sustained damage after shooting a few thousand rounds of hot 10mm rounds. The supposed cause was the 17 lb recoil spring was not enough.

I then bought a 19 lb and 21 lb spring and the 19 lb spring felt much like the 17 lb spring. I then tried the 21 lb spring and it noticably softened the recoil and all my 10mm ammo still cycled reliably.

I later read that many have had good luck with 23 lb springs. I have not done that because the 21 lb works for me and I do not want to spend the money for something that may or may not work.

The 21 lb spring does not cycle the .40 ammo reliably so I switch springs when I shoot that.

Full disclosure, I got into the shooting sports after suffering a stroke (11 years ago this April). It paralyzed my left side. Before the stroke I was ambidextrous. For years after I could not do many things with my right hand and so that is why I wanted Gen 4 Glocks.

It took 2 years of rehab to recover to the point I could return to work. I realized I needed to learn to use handguns for self-defense. I grew up shooting rifles. I picked up the G29 as a bear gun because I am a biology teacher and a former field biologist. So on my breaks I often go to Yellowstone, Glacier, and other places that is grizzly country and I wanted a bear gun. I have never needed to use a gun in a grizzly encounter in my now 60 years of life, but I would rather have and not need it than not have and wish I had it that one time.

When I found out I preferred it over the G30 initially, I spent money on getting training with it. I have some arthritis in my hands and some weakness in my wrists. With the 21 lb spring, it is close to my limit to rack the slide but I can. The day after shooting it my wrists are sore. To me it is worth it.

It is the fun factor. It puts a smile on my face.

I do have a grip ball that I have been using daily and it seems to be helping.

I also have a 6" KKM 2 ported barrel for range use. It is fun and makes follow up shots even faster. When I get time to reload, I will use it when I load lead rounds.

I agree.

OP, have you tried a G30?