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  • #46
    Snoopy47
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 3887

    Originally posted by SkyHawk
    Mine was supposed to be here yesterday, now maybe tomorrow - thanks USPS
    Ordered from Timney, shipped FEDEX, currently out on the truck for delivery.
    Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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    • #47
      Civilian
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 32

      Originally posted by Shab21
      To bad they don't have G20/G21
      I agree, can't wait for that.
      Just-American
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      "Hunt You Down All Nightmare Long!"
      "Civilian Lovers appreciate nice curves" insp. by Dr. Snubnose

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      • #48
        Snoopy47
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 3887

        CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Just finished install.

        Used my Lyman Trigger Pull Scale (which I am competent with).

        With Ghost Connector and SIX (yes SIX) pound STRIKER spring.

        Trigger pull now is 2.5lbs. give or take an ounce here or there .

        Now, there is room for much improvement in the trigger shoe. The way the trigger safety is doesn't leave room to safely take up pre travel slack.

        I also feel a bit of a hang up when the trigger returns to set. I'll try and track it down, but it's not a smooth trigger return.

        That said...............what other $150 trigger option give you a sub 3lb trigger with a 6lb striker. This puppy will set of dummy rounds.
        Last edited by Snoopy47; 02-05-2021, 4:02 PM.
        Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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        • #49
          Dooder
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 1512

          Play with the connector tension. What I discovered is that there is a large burr on the rear radius of the trigger bar. The burrs are on both sides and leaves a U channel. This is the comment I was addressing in the earlier part of this thread where I couldn't take it off due to the coating. But I decided to go with it as this is bad but can be really good if figured out corectly. Good if you adjust the connector just right it will ride on the thin edges which is a significant reduction in bearing surface area. Bad if it's not tweaked just right the edge of the connector will jump in and out of the burr and even bind up. I also stoned a very small chamfer into that leading edge on the connector and polished it up.

          I noticed this because there's an audible click as it jumps in and out of the groove created by the burrs. When you get it just right the return is smooth and forceful. I noticed that the trigger pull was really noisy too, as the tuning progressed the noise decreased. Also grease that surface where the bar meets the connector and grease the axle on the trigger for the return spring.
          Last edited by Dooder; 02-05-2021, 4:26 PM.
          Man, this place has gone bonkers.

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          • #50
            SkyHawk
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Sep 2012
            • 23530

            I have mine installed into a brand new, bone stock G34G4. All I did was polish the factory Dot connector, the striker foot, and the face of the firing pin safety plunger.

            The system dropped in and just worked with no adjustments needed. It does what it advertises. I will check my weight with my digital Lyman gauge a bit later tonight.

            As noted above by Snoopy, you cannot take up all the pre-travel you would like without additional mods. In addition to trimming back the trigger tab safety, you would also have to re-profile the hump on the trigger bar so it engages the firing pin safety plunger later in the pull.

            And I really would like to see an over-travel solution. It seems it may be possible with a drill/tap and custom set screw in the bottom of the Timney chassis, but I will explore that later perhaps after I can catch another trigger on sale.

            I am curious how different connectors will interact with this system and what effect they will have. It may be that a stock connector works better, these connectors may work completely differently with this system than we are used to. I think a stock connector may give a crisper break with less creep, perhaps with no significant effect on pull weight.

            I will experiment some more later using various connectors. But my first inclination is that a stock connector may be the best setup, because the trigger bar will be moving down more than back, and that is pretty much what you want with this fully cocked striker.
            Last edited by SkyHawk; 02-05-2021, 4:45 PM.
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            • #51
              Dooder
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 1512

              Oh on a side note, connectors play a part in the perceived trigger mush. However the plunger and striker play a large part in it as well. My Timney set up wouldn't crisp up enough so I examined those parts and they were trashed. Had to replace all it and now the trigger is crispy.

              Strikers and plungers are out of sight out of mind, but they do wear out. I had around 20k with the stock striker before it had to be replaced. I put in the Zev lightened striker and plunger and those lasted probably about another 20k but are more worn than stock Glock steel. And that's live fire round count. There's probably half as many dry firings to add onto that. I'll post some pictures in a bit.

              The armorer at the GSSF match a coupla years ago refreshed the guts in my g21 slide as that striker and plunger were trashed too. That gun probably had about 30k on it.
              Man, this place has gone bonkers.

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              • #52
                SkyHawk
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Sep 2012
                • 23530

                Originally posted by Dooder
                What I discovered is that there is a large burr on the rear radius of the trigger bar. The burrs are on both sides and leaves a U channel.
                It looks like the entire trigger bar is two halves joined together or folded together. I looked at the whole thing and that channel you are talking about under magnification, and I'm like wtf is this?

                I did not notice any effect though or weird interactions with the connector but I need to observe it some more when my house is quieter, kids in bed etc. My reset seems fine, no hangups. But I will put the gunsmith striker plate back in and get a flashlight and some magnifying goggles and have a good look inside.
                Last edited by SkyHawk; 02-05-2021, 4:45 PM.
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                • #53
                  Dooder
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 1512

                  Originally posted by SkyHawk
                  It looks like the entire trigger bar is two halves joined together or folded together. I looked at the whole thing and that channel you are talking about under magnification, and I'm like wtf is this?
                  Yea right?! So weird. It totally looks like two halves stuck together. I was wondering because if it was stamped twice then it should still only have one burr. That's why I was going along with maybe it's intentional. The dual burr isn't along the entire bar. But I went along with it because it works haaha.

                  What flavor Tootsie Pop did you guys get?
                  Man, this place has gone bonkers.

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                  • #54
                    SkyHawk
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 23530

                    I ordered from a seller on eBay, no Tootsie pops
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                    • #55
                      Snoopy47
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 3887

                      Originally posted by Dooder
                      What flavor Tootsie Pop did you guys get?
                      Negative there.......

                      Ordered direct from Manufacture.

                      Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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                      • #56
                        Ktm45
                        Member
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 122

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                        • #57
                          Dooder
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 1512

                          Yay the Tootsie Pop delivered!! Its pretty sweet. Man I started to question if the Tootsie Pop was real or if my kid happened to leave one on the table haaha.
                          Man, this place has gone bonkers.

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                          • #58
                            chachachanng
                            Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 195

                            No love for gen 5?

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                            • #59
                              SkyHawk
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 23530

                              Originally posted by chachachanng
                              No love for gen 5?
                              It's coming...
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                              • #60
                                Elysium
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 819

                                Blue Raspberry direct from Timney.


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