New Timney Glock trigger

[Mr. Blue]

[MuayThaiJJ]

Those of you having reset issues, game changer for me was replacing the Timney red return spring with an even stronger torsion spring . The reset is wonderfully positive now, no need to tinker with the connector so often. I had to buy a bunch to offset the shipping, that's the only bad part lol

My pull was around 2-2.25#, now it's 2.5# which I prefer. Using the Zev Pro connector

If anyone wants a extra power spring and not pay crazy shipping. PM me, I have a few left.

[awiner]

Those of you having reset issues, game changer for me was replacing the Timney red return spring with an even stronger torsion spring . The reset is wonderfully positive now, no need to tinker with the connector so often. I had to buy a bunch to offset the shipping, that's the only bad part lol

My pull was around 2-2.25#, now it's 2.5# which I prefer. Using the Zev Pro connector

If anyone wants a extra power spring and not pay crazy shipping. PM me, I have a few left.

What spring thickness did you go with ?

[MuayThaiJJ]

What spring thickness did you go with ?

0.040"

[jimmykan]

0.40"

Almost half an inch thick wire?

[MuayThaiJJ]

Almost half an inch thick wire?

LOL oops, fixed. That's what I get for replying on my phone
The red spring was 0.032" for me, so the 0.040" wire really helps

[rodralig]

0.040"

Sending you a PM. Thanks!


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[SkyHawk]

A few months (or six) ago I made some returns springs from .035 and .040 and I am using the .035 for now. I made a post here

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=27216350#post27216350

I do like a stronger return than the red spring from Timney

[sfvshooter]

A few months (or six) ago I made some returns springs from .035 and .040 and I am using the .035 for now. I made a post here

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=27216350#post27216350

I do like a stronger return than the red spring from Timney

I have one in a gen3 19 and one in a Glock 45. G45 reset feels crisp, like the Zev trigger in my gen3 34, but the reset in the 19 is a little mushy. Saw the post above and ordered some 0.039" music wire from Amazon. Fingers crossed.

[MuayThaiJJ]

Hey guys, I go over how to modify torsion springs to help with reset for Timney Alpha, and I compare it to the new Glock Performance trigger in this video:

https://youtu.be/v36nXwo5Mw8

[rodralig]

So, thanks to the prodding of friends and regular squadmates, I finally switched to the Timney for competition... Yeah, even I had a Timney for the Gen 5, I still run a stock OEM setup for my match G17 Gen 3 (stock spring weights, OEM RSA, etc.). I love the wall and the positive reset, and yeah, with thousands of presses - it does "smoothen" up that the felt pull weight is much less.

Anyways, installed my for Gen 3 Timney to a spare G17 frame. However, in contrast to my Gen 5 setup - the reset with the RED spring is positive! Break is clear/crisp! Wow! I took it to the local SWPL match. Aside from the slight hesitation in the first stage, a classifier, where I went "Oh! This is how this trigger feels..." as well the second stage where I pulled my shot (not yet used to the crisp pull) - it was a "I LIKE THIS!!!"

Somewhere along the match I thought that the trigger would fail me that I did bring my primary frame. But no! All reliable throughout the entire match.




Loved it so much, that I ordered another Timney for a Gen 3 to serve as a backup/primary.


Unfortunately, in spite of the same housing (336), same connector (OEM 4.5 or minus), similar set of springs, etc. I cannot replicate the same feel. In particular the position of the "wall" and "break."

In the "good" Timney I have - the wall is just before the trigger goes vertical. And the trigger breaks at vertical. Very clean, very nice. Minimal trigger movement. But for the next Timney (Gen 3) I got, the wall is at vertical, and the break is a bit past that.

While I have learned from checking YT (Timney Channel)that I can "clean up" the feel of the reset, etc. by "tuning" the angle of the connector, I still have not found a way to adjust the wall/break.

Suggestions/recommendations anyone?

Thanks in advanced!!!


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[static2126]

Timney and the Glock OEM performance trigger both have issues at high round counts. Have had both fail.to reset after 1 to 2k rounds. Had to be cleaned then worked

[aar0n_k]

Unfortunately the fact is every gun is slightly different. I have dealt with this also but have been able to get the feel of the Timneys in my 17 and 19 nearly identical. Have you tried swapping the exact trigger setup from the first gun to the second to see if it feels the same?

You mentioned similar springs. I would suggest the first thing is to put the exact same springs into the second gun. Including every spring in the slide(striker/plunger).

With the connector, every degree of angle affects how the Timney feels. Make sure the connector in the new Timney is the same connector and bent to the exact same angle as your original one.

So, thanks to the prodding of friends and regular squadmates, I finally switched to the Timney for competition... Yeah, even I had a Timney for the Gen 5, I still run a stock OEM setup for my match G17 Gen 3 (stock spring weights, OEM RSA, etc.). I love the wall and the positive reset, and yeah, with thousands of presses - it does "smoothen" up that the felt pull weight is much less.

Anyways, installed my for Gen 3 Timney to a spare G17 frame. However, in contrast to my Gen 5 setup - the reset with the RED spring is positive! Break is clear/crisp! Wow! I took it to the local SWPL match. Aside from the slight hesitation in the first stage, a classifier, where I went "Oh! This is how this trigger feels..." as well the second stage where I pulled my shot (not yet used to the crisp pull) - it was a "I LIKE THIS!!!"

Somewhere along the match I thought that the trigger would fail me that I did bring my primary frame. But no! All reliable throughout the entire match.




Loved it so much, that I ordered another Timney for a Gen 3 to serve as a backup/primary.


Unfortunately, in spite of the same housing (336), same connector (OEM 4.5 or minus), similar set of springs, etc. I cannot replicate the same feel. In particular the position of the "wall" and "break."

In the "good" Timney I have - the wall is just before the trigger goes vertical. And the trigger breaks at vertical. Very clean, very nice. Minimal trigger movement. But for the next Timney (Gen 3) I got, the wall is at vertical, and the break is a bit past that.

While I have learned from checking YT (Timney Channel)that I can "clean up" the feel of the reset, etc. by "tuning" the angle of the connector, I still have not found a way to adjust the wall/break.

Suggestions/recommendations anyone?

Thanks in advanced!!!


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[SkyHawk]

Unfortunately, in spite of the same housing (336), same connector (OEM 4.5 or minus), similar set of springs, etc. I cannot replicate the same feel. In particular the position of the "wall" and "break."

In the "good" Timney I have - the wall is just before the trigger goes vertical. And the trigger breaks at vertical. Very clean, very nice. Minimal trigger movement. But for the next Timney (Gen 3) I got, the wall is at vertical, and the break is a bit past that.

While I have learned from checking YT (Timney Channel)that I can "clean up" the feel of the reset, etc. by "tuning" the angle of the connector, I still have not found a way to adjust the wall/break.

Suggestions/recommendations anyone?

Thanks in advanced!!!


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The wall & break is going to come down in large part to the interface between the striker toe and the Timney sear. Try swapping strikers between the guns and see if the "good" wall follows the striker.

If so then maybe you can polish the striker toe of the not so great striker Otherwise examine the angle of the striker toe and also check the not so great Timney sear to see if it is as shiny and burr free as the good one.

If you have a modified striker retainer plate or one of the orange ones, so you can observe the striker/sear when it breaks during dry firing - that might give you some info as well.

[rodralig]

The wall & break is going to come down in large part to the interface between the striker toe and the Timney sear. Try swapping strikers between the guns and see if the "good" wall follows the striker.

If so then maybe you can polish the striker toe of the not so great striker Otherwise examine the angle of the striker toe and also check the not so great Timney sear to see if it is as shiny and burr free as the good one.

If you have a modified striker retainer plate or one of the orange ones, so you can observe the striker/sear when it breaks during dry firing - that might give you some info as well.

Thank you @SkyHawk.

What I did was actually swap slides. The good Timney goes with the frame. So, am thinking it is NOT a striker issue?


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