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  • #16
    Mr. Blue
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2019
    • 2512

    Originally posted by Beelzy
    It's a firearm, not a Faberge Egg. Lol
    https://youtube.com/c/GatCat

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    • #17
      Mr. Blue
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2019
      • 2512

      Originally posted by golfrj
      Check on the 1911 Forum Search on how to modify your 1911 slide release to eliminate this problem completely! Easily done too...
      Thanks!
      https://youtube.com/c/GatCat

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      • #18
        Mr. Blue
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2019
        • 2512

        Originally posted by Cuda440
        My favorite 1911 had the idiot scratch when I bought it, so I have never once had to worry about it

        This is an awesome Kimber. Very nice.
        https://youtube.com/c/GatCat

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        • #19
          The War Wagon
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Apr 2011
          • 10294

          Idiot scratch means you've USED it!
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          • #20
            FeuerFrei
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2008
            • 7455



            Scratch discounts on used guns for sale? Yahtzee!

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            • #21
              B2D
              Member
              • Aug 2018
              • 468

              I idiot-scratched my very 1st 1911 that I got because I didn't understand how to disassemble it properly. Youtube wasn't a thing at the time and i couldn't find a book that explained how to do it right. I wasn't too pleased with myself.

              Since then, I've learned how to strip 1911s properly and have't done it, but sometimes with my stainless 1911 or someone else's gun I'll put some blue painters tape in that area just in case I make a mistake or slip or something. I've never had the tape save me in that case but it makes me feel better just to have it there.

              Overall anything that doesn't affect the function of the gun I can live with, especially if I didn't put it there. I'm more averse to ugly perpendicular scratches on slides and such.

              I kind of treat it like guitars... I take care of them but dings will happen if you use them regularly and often enough. I've bought and own guitars with paint dings and pressure dents. It happens.
              Last edited by B2D; 07-23-2020, 2:13 PM.

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              • #22
                BajaJames83
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2011
                • 6037

                what do you do with your guns stare at them? Dont drop them on the carpet.
                I prefer to shoot them and use them, while they do get well taken care of they still get worn and the occasional scratch.
                NRA Endowment Life Member
                USMC 2001-2012

                Never make yourself too available or useful...... Semper Fidelis

                John Dickerson: What keeps you awake at night?
                James Mattis: Nothing, I keep other people awake at night.

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                • #23
                  highpower
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2012
                  • 5303

                  Way back when I got my first 1911, it had the dreaded idiot scratch. Since all the 1911's I owned or shot for many years had the scratch, I thought that they were supposed to be there. It took me a little while to learn how to put the slide release in without gooning the frame.

                  I don't really mind a gun showing it's age through it's battle scars, but there is really no excuse to mar it up due to laziness, ignorance and/or stupidity.
                  MLC member.

                  Biden, proof that stupid people shouldn't be allowed to vote.

                  Dumocraps suck balls.

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                  • #24
                    Snoopy47
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 3885

                    It’s a simple thing and a dead give away when inspecting a used 1911 if the owner knew how to take care of it.

                    For example, when looking over a used motorcycle I always check to condition of the drive chain and sprockets.

                    Poor condition leads me to believe it was in the hands of the ill informed.
                    Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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                    • #25
                      redcliff
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 5676

                      I give a pass to 1st time owners but it can be avoided with proper technique; no mods or crutches needed.
                      "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
                      "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
                      "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

                      "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
                      although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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                      • #26
                        ABR
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2015
                        • 1167

                        I trained all 4 kids on the same 1911 .45 including disassembly/cleaning. That one has a light Idiot Scratch on it. I don't remember which one did it, they all deny it LOL
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                        "Leave the gun, take the cannoli"

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                        • #27
                          D.A.V.I.D.
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                          CGN Contributor
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 1876

                          If it’s in .45 acp who cares?

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                          • #28
                            heidad01
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 4902

                            Originally posted by hunterb
                            100% agreed OP. My pet peeve also. It is not holster wear or wear from use, it is a scratch from carelessness and laziness.

                            Either mod your slide stop or just cut a piece of old credit card to slip under the area when you reinstall the slide stop. Easily avoided with minimal effort.
                            I would rather have a 1911 with lots of holster wear than a pristine one with an idiot mark. Ugh.

                            slide stop mod:
                            This is a modification I do on just about all slide stops as it allows easy installation and doesn't affect function. It is easily done with a needle file. To install, the slide stop is positioned directly on top of the plunger and you can feel it saddle over it and push it straight in. Bingo...

                            Still in the dark after a total hard drive failure. But here or another forum in the recent past, pictures were posted of a modification to the 1911 slide stop that allows easier insertion when reassembling. The mod is a groove filed that eases the slide stop to get past the plunger pin thus...

                            https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=214825
                            Second that. Good url posted^^

                            I get a laugh from "it is just a tool, shoot the snut out of it"

                            That is the easy excuse for being clumsy, ham handed, and or not caring for own property. Yes it will still work but it looks like schiitt.
                            I guess some people are ok with that. None of mine have the infamous scar and they get used regularly.

                            I have noticed that on new 1911s, of all brands, some slide stops (the tip that pushes back the pin against the spring) are easier to install than others.

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                            • #29
                              newbie1234
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 3121

                              I used a plastic card which is a little bit thinner than a credit card (or you can used the expired credit card and sand it off), put between the "pin" and "slide lock" then push the slide lock straight down, to prevent the idiot mark. I also have idiot mark before used this method.

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                              • #30
                                heidad01
                                Veteran Member
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 4902

                                Originally posted by highpower
                                Way back when I got my first 1911, it had the dreaded idiot scratch. Since all the 1911's I owned or shot for many years had the scratch, I thought that they were supposed to be there. It took me a little while to learn how to put the slide release in without gooning the frame.

                                ......

                                I don't really mind a gun showing it's age through it's battle scars, but there is really no excuse to mar it up due to laziness, ignorance and/or stupidity.
                                Good points. ^^

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