Striker Fired vs. 1911 Condition 0?

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[jon94520]

I’m sure smarter minds will chime in but a 1911 will more than likely have a lighter trigger with less take up than a striker fired pistol.
Also if dropped in condition 0 I believe it is much more likely to discharge than if the thumb safety is engaged.
I agree with you though...I don’t carry any semi auto without a manual safety...but I grew up firing the 1911 so sweeping off the thumb safety is second nature to me.

[rodralig]

Most striker pistols have the trigger safety, the heavier trigger and a longer take-up. Some even have a grip safety.


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Let's take Glock as the example, since it's the simplest or least items. To me, it's more closer to condition two.

The Glock trigger has that little safety right on the trigger, so let's say that is equivalent to the 1911 grip safety. So if 1911 grip safety or the Glock trigger safety is not depressed, neither trigger should move.

Glock striker is not fully pre-cocked. I know striker is not called cocked, but getting my point thru. The user has to pull thru the pre-travel to hit breaking point. At that point, it's now equivalent to condition 0. See, people are not going to carry with their finger on the trigger. There are stories of trigger being snagged by something and the trigger will pull. Debatable if the safety is in the grip will help in some of those cases.

I put striker fire, closer to a double action only revolver. Generally no manual safety there. All else you can add in a manual safety if you like or they do make some with a manual safety.

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

A quality holster will help mitigate your fears of the trigger magically going off while carrying. A standard Glock has a #4.5-5.5 trigger and they are far stiffer than a single action. You can't compare Glock internal safeties to carrying a 1911 with all safeties off. It's not going to go off unless the trigger is pulled, which goes back to having a good holster. If you're worried about touching the trigger too early while drawing, that's a training issue and is a no-go for any pistol.

[saudadeii]

Nothing wrong with sticking to something you're comfortable with (with which you're comfortable... with what you're... nevermind!!)

Plenty of "carry guns" available with manual safeties. Just practice sweeping the safety off/on. XDs even have a grip safety.

[tbc]

Out of the box? Or after market?


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[jwfire25]

The main one is the 320/365 Sigs I'd imagine.


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[tbc]

I am not highly familiar with Sig 320 but if you are comparing a Sig 320 striker fired gun to a 1911 series 80 in condition 0, then you have a valid point.


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[kcheung2]

A lot of the striker fired pistols seem to have fairly light triggers
Am I wrong for being uncomfortable with carrying one? I sure would be uncomfortable carrying a 1911 with the safety off. Am I looking at this wrong?

I'm waiting for the 1911 fans to take umbrage of your trigger comparisons. Heck I'm a Glock fan & I'll admit a 1911 trigger is noticeably lighter.

But if you prefer a manual safety, get one with it. While I want my long guns to have a manual safety, I chose all my pistols with only a trigger safety. Variety makes a marketplace interesting.

[rudigan]

I have numerous handguns, mostly Glocks. The only handguns I that came with manual safety "lever/switch" are S&W 645 and Beretta M9.
Put the de-cocker only kit on the M9, I'd do the same for the 645 if I found one.

[FeuerFrei]

I have carried a 1911 for years with it cocked w/safety off without any fear of it going off. Very safe design.
It is mechanically sound and maintained with a good holster that fits.

1911's are drop safe and usually have good factory triggers. The only thing I would not do is go lighter than a 4.5# trigger weight.

I currently carry a Glock 26/19 and have no concerns with those either.

Ignorance breeds fear and training breeds confidence.
4 golden rules...RULE.
Good habits and knowledge make you safer.

[BrokerB]

None of my stock glock triggers are even close to my 1911

[Mr. Meeseeks]

I wouldn't stick a Glock with one in the chamber in my waistband without a decent IWB holster. I also wouldn't holster the Glock before checking for obstructions that may have gotten in that holster. A 1911 with the redundant safeties is inherently more forgiving.

[TomReloaded]

Many many many people have accidentally shot themselves with Glocks. Usually goofing off with the holster, not in defensive situations. It's not snag safe, or poor finger usage safe. Glocks are incredibly resistant to dropping or going off on their own.

1911s are wonky as hell. I wouldnt carry one without a very reputable reliability package and a premium carry trigger. I know half of calguns has carried a cocked and locked 1911 for decades without issue. Except for the million threads about a huge assortment of problems. My hammer slipped just today after i missed a spring leg on assembly.