Ruger 5.7 Leaked

[IVC]

The Ruger looks exactly like the FN but it's MSRP is $799 and the ambi safety and trigger are better than the FN. Too bad though it doesn't appear to be have a MA or CA version...not surprised.

CA requires "microstamping" which doesn't exist, so no semi-automatic handgun can be added, even in principle. It's not up to Ruger...

[Steve1968LS2]

I don't save anything in the rifle weight if I have a magnum length actoin chambered in 5.7x28. In other words, if I have to carry a rifle with a 223 sized action, it doesn't make any sense to get one in 22 hornet or 5.7x28 unless I have some other vested interest in that cartridge. May as well stay 223 rem. .

Well, the rounds weight a LOT less, so you could carry far more rounds at the same weight penalty..

If I carry an FN 5.7 pistol and an PS90 I have 70 rounds before I need to reload

[AFTII]

Doesn't secret service use 5.7? It must be worth something...

I have an FN Five seveN (sic) and it's a fun gun to shoot at the range from time to time.

The 5.7 is a competent defensive round IF you have the right ammo (read SS 190). Unfortunately, civilians cannot obtain SS 190. https://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_...oduct1210.html The typical ballistic tip / frangible ammo available to us peons, could legitimately be considered "hot" .22 mag loads.

[Steve1968LS2]

The 5.7 is a competent defensive round IF you have the right ammo (read SS 190). Unfortunately, civilians cannot obtain SS 190. https://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_...oduct1210.html The typical ballistic tip / frangible ammo available to us peons, could legitimately be considered "hot" .22 mag loads.

The only advantage of SS190 is the ability to penetrate body armor.. which some of the other ones will still do out of a P90 (depending on armor of course)

The SS198LF has a muzzle velocity of 2,600 (and over 350 ft-lb of energy) and is a very effective defensive round.

Did the Ft Hood shooter have SS190 ammo?

[AFTII]

The only advantage of SS190 is the ability to penetrate body armor.. which some of the other ones will still do out of a P90 (depending on armor of course)

The SS198LF has a muzzle velocity of 2,600 (and over 350 ft-lb of energy) and is a very effective defensive round.

Did the Ft Hood shooter have SS190 ammo?

I saw an article that stated that he did not buy ammo with the gun, so I ***-u-med he used duty ammo. https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ticle-1.414799 Who knows? I can't find that that data was ever released.

As for the lead free stuff, it may work out of a P90, but it's not very impressive out of a handgun.



Watch it to the end. He mentions how the SS190 penetrated armor and still penetrated 12.1" into the same ballistic gel that he SS198LF is only penetrating 9"

[Packy14]

What? lol.. what is Ruger supposed to do about CA? Microstamping?



Recoil is low.. at least to me.. a lot of this is due to the blowback design.

They dropped their already on list guns off the roster even their .22lr guns. So **** them. If you don’t know that get a clue before you yap.

[SkyHawk]

So did Colt. There is probably a reason for it, one that is completely beyond their control.

[SkyHawk]

Here is a review

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2019/12/31/tested-ruger-57-pistol/

[omega]

they should make a "RONI" type stock for it like they make for Glocks

[Packy14]

So did Colt. There is probably a reason for it, one that is completely beyond their control.

Nope it was entirely in their control to keep grandfathered guns on roster... they chose not to. So **** them. We can’t support those who desert us.

[fmunk]

Why do people like the .22 Winchester mag?


After 20 years of war, the 5.7 sucks against people

It sucks with commercially available ammo.

[Whiterabbit]

It sucks with commercially available ammo.

I just saw a youtube vid of a guy who had 62 gr subsonic ammo (SB193) that still penetrated 2 layers of body armor. Mentioned it used to be made with 55gr SMK's which I assume are commercially available.

So, for those of us who reload, wouldn't it be possible to run the cartridge's full potential? There are many who work with and reload the 5.7

I never buy a gun with the intention of shooting commercial ammo exclusively. For those that do, I can see why the 5.7 would have little appeal. All the arguments make sense from that perspective. But I don't see why handloaders can't work around all the issues folks complain about.

[tuna quesadilla]

Nope it was entirely in their control to keep grandfathered guns on roster... they chose not to. So **** them. We can’t support those who desert us.

Do you have a source for that? Because what I read was exactly the opposite of what you're saying. Something about CA-DOJ bullying them with an ultimatum about some change in their manufacturing process or manufacturing location or something like that, which required them to withdraw all their semi-autos from the roster. I don't recall quite what the story was that I'd read. Do you have a source for Ruger and Colt voluntarily pulling the plug on roster sales to California?

[plumbum]

Yes, Ruger and S&W both dropped in an effort to hamstring the roster - but no one else played along.

[Packy14]

Do you have a source for that? Because what I read was exactly the opposite of what you're saying. Something about CA-DOJ bullying them with an ultimatum about some change in their manufacturing process or manufacturing location or something like that, which required them to withdraw all their semi-autos from the roster. I don't recall quite what the story was that I'd read. Do you have a source for Ruger and Colt voluntarily pulling the plug on roster sales to California?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/gun-flight-smith-wesson-ruger-quit-california-over-stamping-requirement

no new guns would make roster, but they cut off all their guns that were on list by choice.