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  • avocado213
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    • Feb 2017
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    Last edited by avocado213; 11-28-2023, 10:08 AM.
  • #2
    saudadeii
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 3433

    You should post this in one of the 2A forums, such as:

    My Marketplace Feedback: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...k#post54003245

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    • #3
      faterikcartman
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2006
      • 1404

      Most of us are trying to figure out how to move OUT of California.
      I am not your lawyer. I am not giving you or anyone else who reads my posts legal advice. I am making off-the-cuff comments that may or may not be accurate and are personal, not professional, opinion. If you think you need a lawyer please retain a qualified attorney in your jurisdiction. Your local bar association may be able to help if you need a referral.

      Two Weeks!: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/a...p/t-59936.html

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      • #4
        Quiet
        retired Goon
        • Mar 2007
        • 30241

        Under Federal laws...

        A Title 1 Other can legally be made into a Title 1 Handgun.

        Under CA laws...

        The firearm needs to be configured in a CA legal manner prior to importation into CA.

        Therefore...

        Before you move to CA:
        1. You need to make your Title 1 Other into a Title 1 Handgun.
        2. The Title 1 Handgun needs to be configured as CA legal firearm. See options below:
        Option A. Semi-auto pistol with a fixed 10 or less round magazine that can not be removed without disassembling the firearm's action or that is permanently attached in the firearm's magazine well.
        Option B. Manually operated pistol. The gas tube/piston is removed and the gas block is plugged.

        After you move to CA:
        1. Within 60 days of establishing residency in CA, you must register all the firearms you brought with you to CA.
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        "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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        • #5
          morrcarr67
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jul 2010
          • 15018

          How is this different from your other thread?



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          Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

          Originally posted by Erion929

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          • #6
            rm1911
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 4073

            Originally posted by faterikcartman
            Most of us are trying to figure out how to move OUT of California.


            Why? We can surf and ski in the same day.


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            NRA Life Member since 1990

            They're not liberals, they're leftists. Please don't use the former for the latter. Liberals are Locke, Jefferson, Burke, Hayek. Leftists are progressives, Prussian state-socialists, fascists. Liberals stand against the state and unequivocally support liberty. Leftists support state tyranny.

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            • #7
              SkyHawk
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Sep 2012
              • 23518

              As noted, do it BEFORE you move to CA, and be sure it is in a CA legal configuration.
              Click here for my iTrader Feedback thread: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...r-feedback-100

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              • #8
                Saym14
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2009
                • 7892

                Originally posted by rm1911
                Why? We can surf and ski in the same day.


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                • #9
                  L-2
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 1331

                  ...and, can either of the options in Post#4 maintain a threaded barrel?; I don't think so. I've heard of Calif. AR pistols pinning/welding the muzzle devices.
                  (former) Glock and 1911 Armorer; LEO (now retired)

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                  • #10
                    kenl
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 1715

                    Originally posted by L-2
                    ...and, can either of the options in Post#4 maintain a threaded barrel?; I don't think so. I've heard of Calif. AR pistols pinning/welding the muzzle devices.
                    Iirc threaded hand gun barrels are a no go in kalifornia. They were used by the bad guys in some old movies, so are too scary for the subjects to own
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                    California, the once-great first world state that is now a corrupt third world socialist cesspool.

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                    • #11
                      jimbo74
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 2923

                      Originally posted by L-2
                      ...and, can either of the options in Post#4 maintain a threaded barrel?; I don't think so. I've heard of Calif. AR pistols pinning/welding the muzzle devices.
                      Originally posted by kenl
                      Iirc threaded hand gun barrels are a no go in kalifornia. They were used by the bad guys in some old movies, so are too scary for the subjects to own
                      YES, it CAN have a threaded barrel on a pistol if it is semi-auto, fixed magazine, and not capable of accepting over 10 rounds
                      "It is currently CA legal to modify a double-action revolver into a single-action revolver and modify a single-action revolver into a double-action revolver.

                      CA DOJ BOF stance on modifying handguns only applies to dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistols and dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistols.
                      ^It does not apply to revolvers, manually operated repeating pistols, and semi-auto pistols." ~~ Quiet

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                      • #12
                        L-2
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 1331

                        I found my Penal Code reference.
                        PC 30515
                        (a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, “assault weapon” also means any of the following:
                        (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of the following:
                        (A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
                        (B) A thumbhole stock.
                        (C) A folding or telescoping stock.
                        (D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
                        (E) A flash suppressor.
                        (F) A forward pistol grip.
                        (2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
                        (3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.
                        (4) A semiautomatic pistol that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of the following:
                        (A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.

                        (B) A second handgrip.
                        (C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer’s hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
                        (D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
                        (5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
                        Last edited by L-2; 08-29-2019, 7:01 PM.
                        (former) Glock and 1911 Armorer; LEO (now retired)

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                        • #13
                          jimbo74
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 2923

                          "It is currently CA legal to modify a double-action revolver into a single-action revolver and modify a single-action revolver into a double-action revolver.

                          CA DOJ BOF stance on modifying handguns only applies to dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistols and dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistols.
                          ^It does not apply to revolvers, manually operated repeating pistols, and semi-auto pistols." ~~ Quiet

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                          • #14
                            Quiet
                            retired Goon
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 30241

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                            "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                            • #15
                              Quiet
                              retired Goon
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 30241

                              Originally posted by L-2
                              ...and, can either of the options in Post#4 maintain a threaded barrel?; I don't think so. I've heard of Calif. AR pistols pinning/welding the muzzle devices.
                              Yes, both options can legally have a threaded barrel.

                              Because CA assault weapons laws for pistols restricts a semi-auto pistol that does not have a fixed magazine from having a threaded barrel [PC 30515(a)(4)(A)], second handgrip [PC 30515(a)(4)(B)], shroud [PC 30515(a)(4)(C)], or accepts magazines outside of it's grip [PC 30515(a)(4)(D)]; those restrictions do not apply to semi-auto pistols with a fixed magazine and to manually operated repeating pistols.


                              Option A.
                              Semi-auto pistol with a fixed 10 or less round magazine that can not be removed without disassembling the firearm's action or that is permanently attached in the firearm's magazine well.

                              Because the semi-auto pistol utilizes a fixed magazine; it can legally have a threaded barrel, second handgrip, shroud, and a magazine located outside of it's grip.


                              Option B.
                              Manually operated repeating pistol.
                              The gas tube/piston is removed and the gas block is plugged.

                              Because the manually operated pistol is not semi-auto; it can legally have a threaded barrel, second handgrip, shroud, and accept detachable magazines regardless if they are accepted in the pistol's grip or not.
                              Last edited by Quiet; 08-30-2019, 6:22 AM.
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                              "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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