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**XDJYo** · 01-19-2019, 8:00 AM

The most immediate benefit is that you no longer have to mess with the yellow/green lever inside the magwell to field strip the gun. Also, you will be able to dry fire the gun without the magazine. A HUGE safety benefit IMHO.

Aside from that, the other 'maybe, almost might be an issue' if you're ever in a wrestle for the gun and the mag is ejected, you won't be able to fire the round that is still in the chamber. If you disable it, you will be able to fire w/o the magazine.

**saudadeii** · 01-19-2019, 8:21 AM

You need to check with your department to see if your allowed to modify your weapon. Down here in OC, no mods are allowed except typically grip and sights.

**boopiejones** · 01-19-2019, 8:47 AM

In certain guns it does smooth out the trigger pull. Not sure about the shield specifically. The biggest benefit is that you still have a useable round in the chamber if the mag falls out.

As for whether or not modded guns are allowed, you’ll need to check with whoever is in charge.

And I know commiefornia calls this a “safety feature” but personally I view it as the exact opposite. It breeds complacency. Only person it is safe for is the bad guy who deserves a bullet but Doesn’t get it because the gun malfunctions.

**P5Ret** · 01-19-2019, 8:54 AM

Originally posted by XDJYo

The most immediate benefit is that you no longer have to mess with the yellow/green lever inside the magwell to field strip the gun. Also, you will be able to dry fire the gun without the magazine. A HUGE safety benefit IMHO.

Aside from that, the other 'maybe, almost might be an issue' if you're ever in a wrestle for the gun and the mag is ejected, you won't be able to fire the round that is still in the chamber. If you disable it, you will be able to fire w/o the magazine.

My off roster Shield has that lever that has to be flipped to field strip it, or the trigger must be pulled. 6 of one half dozen of the other on which is easier.

**nickel plate** · 01-19-2019, 8:54 AM

Originally posted by XDJYo

The most immediate benefit is that you no longer have to mess with the yellow/green lever inside the magwell to field strip the gun. Also, you will be able to dry fire the gun without the magazine. A HUGE safety benefit IMHO.

Aside from that, the other 'maybe, almost might be an issue' if you're ever in a wrestle for the gun and the mag is ejected, you won't be able to fire the round that is still in the chamber. If you disable it, you will be able to fire w/o the magazine.

My six year old 9mm Shield was purchased under the since expired California SSE rule hence no LCI or magazine disconnect.
In my pistol the yellow/green lever is the sear deactivation lever and must be pushed down into the mag well in order to reassemble the slide.
On the later California models with the LCI and MD, is the MD also yellow/green?

**Barbarosa** · 01-19-2019, 9:01 AM

On one hand if you accidentally drop the mag you won't be able to fire the round in the chamber; on the other hand if you are wrestling a bad guy for your gun you can drop the mag so the bad guy won't be able to shoot you if he ends up with the gun. Neither scenario is very likely IMHO.

Personally I find them to be a PITA because it hinders your ability to dry fire, but I don't hate them enough to remove a safety device on a carry gun (for potential liability reasons).

**guitargeak99** · 01-19-2019, 9:13 AM

Thanks to all for the great replies and great information.

I think in this crazy state, for liability reasons, I will leave the features as is.

**Bad Caselaw** · 01-19-2019, 9:27 AM

Pop Quiz:

Mag disconnect Safeties:

A. Force pulling trigger to drop hammer/striker for field-stripping w/ mag installed.
B. Force Dry-firing practice w/ mag installed.
C. Prevent loaded chamber firing during tactical(top off) reload.
D. Are Nanny State/Darwin Award stupid.

Caselaw

**hermosabeach** · 01-19-2019, 10:22 AM

Here is the thing with most mag disconnects-
If you apply a little bit of pressure on the trigger- and hold that pressure- say 2 pounds

then drop the mag
you can keep applying pressure and fire the round....

Some idiots might think the gun is now safe

it's the 4 rules that make you safe

If a LEO and in a struggle over your gun, dropping the mag was a technique to make the gun not work

I am not LEO and don't need this feature

**saudadeii** · 01-19-2019, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by Bad Caselaw

Pop Quiz:

Mag disconnect Safeties:

A. Force pulling trigger to drop hammer/striker for field-stripping w/ mag installed.
B. Force Dry-firing practice w/ mag installed.
C. Prevent loaded chamber firing during tactical(top off) reload.
D. Are Nanny State/Darwin Award stupid.

Caselaw

Sounds like a "loaded" question!

**Dvrjon** · 01-19-2019, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by hermosabeach

If a LEO and in a struggle over your gun, dropping the mag was a technique to make the gun not work

I am not LEO and don't need this feature

**Dano3467** · 01-19-2019, 11:20 AM

If no mag disconnect is good enough for LEO, it's good enough for me to go this route also...

**Dvrjon** · 01-19-2019, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by guitargeak99

Hi all,
Sorry in advance if this has already been discussed - I did do a search:

I have a 9mm Shield in jail, to add to my CCW permit.

I read on a thread over in the CCW sub-forum of someone disabling the magazine safety feature on their Shield. I didn't want to hi-jack, so I'm posting here.
Personally I have no problem with safety features like this one, or an LCI.
Why would anyone disable the mag safety feature?

Does it smooth out the trigger, and is it legal to do - with regards to a CCW?

Thanks

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