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  • aye_dre
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 731

    Originally posted by jimbo74

    I live my life 1/4 mile.... oh wait, lol
    doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile

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    • Mr.patriot1776
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2018
      • 80

      Originally posted by DontWorryScro
      According to this video that was just posted of a law abiding citizen getting his registered AR pistols confiscated, whether they are right or wrong, CA DoJ seems to be of the mindset that ALL AR PISTOLS are banned. Period. WTF? There is a disconnect somewhere...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N3i...ature=youtu.be
      So again this is where the misunderstanding comes into play
      he is the manufacturer [80% lower]
      he's manufacturing a pistol
      He cant make it semi auto and did.
      He tried to register it and they confiscated it, at least he has a day in court and not waiting trial in jail. Officers were not aware of the fixed magazine options available, just like the first time around with BBs. Literally the definition of tool had to be changed to include a bullet. Hence bullet buttons.

      I carry my roster print out at the range Showing new pistols added to the roster and the 3130. Also helps that the ca7 has Moraga California printed right on it... lol...

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      • LEAD LAUNCHER
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 1938

        Originally posted by DontWorryScro
        I heard the "lead" officer saying any AR pistol that is not featureless (which there is no such thing as a legal featureless AR pistol) is illegal......

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        • DontWorryScro
          Member
          • Nov 2017
          • 205

          Maybe this has already been covered but how did Franklin Armory get around the microstamping requirement to put a new gun on the roster?

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          • dilznik
            Member
            • Dec 2016
            • 137

            Originally posted by DontWorryScro
            Maybe this has already been covered but how did Franklin Armory get around the microstamping requirement to put a new gun on the roster?
            Microstamping is only for semi-autos.

            ETA: also it's BS since it doesn't exist. I can't believe any court would uphold this bunk *** roster solely based on that. Drop safety and little pop up loaded lights and crap? Yeah, sure, it's for the betterment of the kids or something. But using a technology that doesn't actually exist as your basis for not letting me buy a P320? Totally bogus.

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            • DontWorryScro
              Member
              • Nov 2017
              • 205

              Originally posted by dilznik
              Microstamping is only for semi-autos.
              ahhh crafty

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              • FlyingShooter
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 831

                Originally posted by DontWorryScro
                Maybe this has already been covered but how did Franklin Armory get around the microstamping requirement to put a new gun on the roster?
                Head back to page 1

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                • DontWorryScro
                  Member
                  • Nov 2017
                  • 205

                  Originally posted by FlyingShooter
                  Head back to page 1
                  kk thanks bud

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                  • papadop88
                    Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 334

                    Originally posted by DontWorryScro
                    I heard the "lead" officer saying any AR pistol that is not featureless (which there is no such thing as a legal featureless AR pistol) is illegal. Our victim was trying to explain it was maglocked and therefor legal but the DoJ folks didn't give a **** and explicitly said if it aint featureless it aint legal. Looks like they were getting him on manufacturing of an unsafe handgun. Which is the same concern people are having about the CA7 and swapping in upper to create semi auto.

                    I don't know. I don't think even the DoJ knows that the law is. You may be very well right but I don't have faith that these officers would agree with you.
                    Only reason they investigated him is because he self registered and provided pics. If you buy a CA7, you wouldn't need to register it as an AW because it's a rostered pistol, therefore no reason for them ever to come to your house.

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                    • DontWorryScro
                      Member
                      • Nov 2017
                      • 205

                      Originally posted by papadop88
                      Only reason they investigated him is because he self registered and provided pics. If you buy a CA7, you wouldn't need to register it as an AW because it's a rostered pistol, therefore no reason for them ever to come to your house.

                      I agree. The lesson learned here was that nothing good comes of registration. Nothing.

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                      • papadop88
                        Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 334

                        Originally posted by DontWorryScro
                        I agree. The lesson learned here was that nothing good comes of registration. Nothing.
                        We can all agree on that. Video footage like this actually does more harm as it solidifies everyone's concern that registration leads to confiscation. The DOJ and the LEO community is actually doing a disservice to themselves on trying to win the trust of the people they serve. All this does is make sure people don't comply/register. It's a shame on their part. If I serviced my clients in a similar fashion, they'd fire my *** faster than I could apologize for not knowing what I was doing.

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                        • dilznik
                          Member
                          • Dec 2016
                          • 137

                          So I bought one today. Yay!

                          I forgot to look: is there a QD point anywhere towards the back? Anywhere to attach a sling?

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                          • 84yoda
                            Member
                            • Aug 2018
                            • 112

                            Don't get me wrong, Im all for the ca7 and a semi upper. But, everyone mentions all these other pistols being modded and how is that different, ect. But none of those pistols are changing single shot to semi. Big difference there.

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                            • jcwatchdog
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 2571

                              Originally posted by 84yoda
                              Don't get me wrong, Im all for the ca7 and a semi upper. But, everyone mentions all these other pistols being modded and how is that different, ect. But none of those pistols are changing single shot to semi. Big difference there.

                              All SSE pistols were technically changed from single shot to semi. In fact, they were changed form semi to single shot. Then when you picked them up they were converted back to semi. This went on for years.

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                              • Nephthys
                                Member
                                • Feb 2017
                                • 300

                                Originally posted by dilznik
                                So I bought one today. Yay!

                                I forgot to look: is there a QD point anywhere towards the back? Anywhere to attach a sling?
                                Grats on the purchase. No QD points anywhere on the CA7 from the factory

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