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  • #16
    jyo
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2008
    • 5320

    Personally, I find the P2000 in 9mm (DA/SA) to be one of my favorite pistols for carry purposes---smaller than the P30 or VP9---sleeker than the USPc---the trigger does not bother me on any of those pistols, but I am not a trigger snob---I shoot so many different pistols, revolvers and rifles---all with a different trigger system... My other smaller pistol is a P2000sk in 9mm with the "light" LEM trigger---smaller still, but shoots like a full-size pistol for me at most defensive ranges...

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    • #17
      fawndog
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Nov 2003
      • 856

      Originally posted by Gregchico
      The G19 was not one of OPs considerations (which I agree is an oversight as the 19 is an awesome pistol), but I would compare the VP9 size more to the G17 than the G19 especially for CCW purposes.
      The Glock points very differently, it's cheap, available, and I don't care if I bang it up (I think of it as a CCW commuter).
      I'm surprised the P2000 and G19 are so close in price. I remember them being closer to $800.

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      • #18
        the Scholar
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 601

        Originally posted by OCEquestrian
        I would compare the VP9 to the G19. If you own both just lay the G19 over the VP9.. the real difference is primarily a slightly longer grip...length and width are VERY similar to the G19.

        Seriously... "take the challenge" and make the comparison.
        I see your point, I just feel that the P2000 is closer in dimensions to the G19 and the VP9 is closer in outer dimensions to the G17 (as demonstrated in the picture above). Either is a valid comparison in my opinion.

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        • #19
          the Scholar
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 601

          Originally posted by fawndog
          The Glock points very differently, it's cheap, available, and I don't care if I bang it up (I think of it as a CCW commuter).
          I'm surprised the P2000 and G19 are so close in price. I remember them being closer to $800.
          Tell me about it. When I purchased my P2000 v3 about 6 years ago, I paid about $1000 for it because Obama was going to take everyone's guns away, haha. Seriously though, I was looking for a P2000 in 9mm for a while and it was the only one that I could find in the Bay Area. In comparison, I picked up a P2000 v2 9mm about 6 months ago and it was soooo much cheaper, even with the LE version that comes with an extra mag and Mepro night sights.

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          • #20
            Saym14
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2009
            • 7892

            all are great guns. the P2000 is the best of the three for carry. and its on roster and priced pretty well ( for an HK). got mine in the LEM trigger.

            if you go off roster also look at the P30SK and VP9.

            some advantages of the P30 is you can get an S version that has a lever safety 911 style and it can me carried hammer donw or cocked and locked.

            the VP9 has the best trigger but I dont feel its willlast 90,000 rounds like a P30 will.

            there is also the P2000SK again Id get it in LEM

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            • #21
              OCEquestrian
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2017
              • 6906

              Originally posted by Gregchico
              OK.
              I agree on width, but length in both slide and grip are bigger on the VP9.
              G34/17 on the bottom, VP9 in the middle and G9 on top.
              The G19 was not one of OPs considerations (which I agree is an oversight as the 19 is an awesome pistol), but I would compare the VP9 size more to the G17 than the G19 especially for CCW purposes.
              I consider the VP 9 to be "in between" the G 19 and the G17 in size. In fact the dimensions of the VP9 are almost identical to the G19X....

              A simple photo comparison of JUST the G19 and VP9 would have been more helpful. Using three guns and not offering a straight profile shot of the two with the G19 on top of VP9 makes it harder to see the differences visually.

              The stats below are taken from the HK and the Glock websites....The only real difference between a G19 and the VP9 is a 1/4 inch in thickness and a 1/2 inch in grip length. To me those are not significant differences but as the case for everything, perception is reality.

              HK VP9
              Length 7.34 in.
              height 5.41 in.
              width 1.32 in.
              barrel length 4.09 in.
              Sight radius 6.38 in

              Glock 19
              Length 7.36 in.
              height 4.99 in.
              width 1.18 in.
              barrel length 4.01 in.
              Sight radius 6.02 in

              Glock 19X
              Length 7.44 in.
              height 5.47 in.
              width 1.30 in.
              barrel length 4.02 in.
              Sight radius 5.94 in


              Glock 17
              Length 8.03 in.
              height 4.43 in.
              width 1.18 in.
              barrel length 4.48 in.
              Sight radius 6.49 in

              Originally posted by Saym14

              the VP9 has the best trigger but I dont feel its willlast 90,000 rounds like a P30 will.
              Why do you think this? I have almost 30,000 rnds thru my primary VP9 without a single malfunction and no other issues. They both have polygonal barrels made from the same steel.....
              Last edited by OCEquestrian; 03-17-2018, 6:30 AM.
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              • #22
                Beendare
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 598

                I didn't have the VP9 as an option.

                I have big hands and didn't like the p2000 grip.

                it was between the P30 and the USP compact for me....and I got the compact- great weapon.

                My g23 [with 9mm barrel] hangs up for some limp wristed female friends....they can't NOT make my HK compact fire every time.
                Last edited by Beendare; 03-20-2018, 1:55 PM. Reason: USP not use

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                • #23
                  Saym14
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 7892

                  So where is the OP do you have anymore questions

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                  • #24
                    Jay-lee
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2017
                    • 546

                    Why not just buy a glock 19

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                    • #25
                      LkPillsburyDude
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 921

                      Had the p2000 v3. Loved the gun, didnt shoot it all that well and hated the trigger. After reset there was a ton of takeup.

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                      • #26
                        Hopalong
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 2436

                        I carry the P2000sk, the smallest HK.
                        Some people don't like the rubber pinky extension; I cut and buffed mine off.
                        You can also buy flat base plates, or get a pinky extension.
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                        • #27
                          holt7153
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 1877

                          Thoughts on the VP9SK? A good buddy is moving out of state and looking for a good CCW. He's shot my P2000 and likes it.

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                          • #28
                            Saym14
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 7892

                            Originally posted by Hopalong
                            I carry the P2000sk, the smallest HK.
                            Some people don't like the rubber pinky extension; I cut and buffed mine off.
                            You can also buy flat base plates, or get a pinky extension.
                            isn't It the same size as the vp9sk and p30 sk?
                            Last edited by Saym14; 03-19-2018, 6:48 AM.

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                            • #29
                            • #30
                              Hopalong
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 2436

                              Originally posted by Saym14
                              isn't It the same size as the vp9sk and p30 sk?
                              Very close, but a tad smaller. Not really noticeable; Google the specs.

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