Revolver vs Self-loading Pistol

[JTROKS]

I haven't met too many people in the real world realm that most of us live in that can shoot a double action revolver very well. That includes myself and I'll bet it includes you.

Hmmmm.... what are we betting on?

[MrOrange]

Thanks, good to know.

Big plus one-a-roono.

You are comparing apples to oranges. The only thing they have in common is they both shoot.

herd u talkin snit bout orange

[essjay]

Should've known better than to waste time on another Donald Babbett thread.

[cvigue]

....

Pretty much pure horsesh*t. You going for the trifecta?

[meno377]

Revolver Advantages

1. safety- much safer by design to handle and store loaded for security especially for a layman: trigger with heavy pull, lacks self-loader's sensitivity: the ability to rest a hammer over an empty chamber for safe stowage and carry

??? Trigger cocked on revolver is much lighter. Semiautos can be stored with loaded magazine and empty chamber.

2. reliability- not likely to misfire, jam or otherwise malfunction

Apparently you didn't read the article with Chuck Taylor regarding the Glock 17 with 270,000 rounds back in 1994. Later years recorded over 750,000 rounds. The link provided was an ongoing article regarding his test. http://www.tactical-life.com/combat-...-torture-test/

Also here is an old thread about him. https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...d.php?t=360611

3. instant load type selection: carry a birdshot round in one of the chambers in snake country and bullet loads for protection against other kinds of animals in adjacent chambers: rotate cylinder to dial in to desired ammunition type without shooting undesired round types out of the way as you would have to in a clip pistol

True with that.

4. easier to clean and oil without complex field stripping

Field stripping is so easy and from that point it's much easier cleaning a semiauto.

5. accuracy: the barrel along with the iron sights are rigidly fixed to the frame: in a self-loader, the barrel and slide with the sights affixed to it move or float independently while firing so the position of the barrel relative to the sights and frame may be less consistent: having the barrel remain stationary relative to the frame is important in shooting with natural pointing instincts as well whereby aiming precisely by the sights is not emphasized

Rob Leatham might disagree with you. Although I would believe that Elmer Keith was one of the best arguments in favor of the larger caliber revolvers. I would be more nervous standing 50 yards away from Elmer Keith pointing a revolver at me than someone pointing an AR at me.

6. less perceived recoil in larger calibers because their is no moving slide to slam backwards especially in a heavier frame

Ever shoot a DE 44mag? I have and the recoil is less than a 6inch 629 240grain FMJ comparison with both.

Self-loader Advantages:


1. new models can often be purchased cheaper than new-model revolvers

2. rapid rate of fire: firepower

3. high round capacity

4. slim, flat profile easier to conceal than round revolver

5. fast reloading with spare clips (magazines)

Jerry Miculek might disagree with you on how fast he can shoot a revolver. In general though, they are easier to carry with few exceptions than revolvers. One exception would be an air-light model PD340. Reloading more likely goes to semiautos and yes they are generally cheaper.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong. Revolvers are great handguns. But the differences today are more about preference than anything else.

[DonaldBabbett]

??? Trigger cocked on revolver is much lighter. Semiautos can be stored with loaded magazine and empty chamber.



Apparently you didn't read the article with Chuck Taylor regarding the Glock 17 with 270,000 rounds back in 1994. Later years recorded over 750,000 rounds. The link provided was an ongoing article regarding his test. http://www.tactical-life.com/combat-...-torture-test/

Also here is an old thread about him. https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...d.php?t=360611



True with that.



Field stripping is so easy and from that point it's much easier cleaning a semiauto.



Rob Leatham might disagree with you. Although I would believe that Elmer Keith was one of the best arguments in favor of the larger caliber revolvers. I would be more nervous standing 50 yards away from Elmer Keith pointing a revolver at me than someone pointing an AR at me.



Ever shoot a DE 44mag? I have and the recoil is less than a 6inch 629 240grain FMJ comparison with both.






Jerry Miculek might disagree with you on how fast he can shoot a revolver. In general though, they are easier to carry with few exceptions than revolvers. One exception would be an air-light model PD340. Reloading more likely goes to semiautos and yes they are generally cheaper.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong. Revolvers are great handguns. But the differences today are more about preference than anything else.

If one keeps the revolver hammer resting over an empty chamber, the gun can be fired fast in a hurry while still allowing the gun to be loaded and safe against accidental discharge as from dropping.

Having to rack a slide before firing is time consuming and could cost you your life in a combat situation.

The D/A revolver can also be cocked fast to go into single action mode if time permits in an emergency. This will provide a lighter pull for a more well-placed shot if time permits.

If I had to have a semi, I would go for the Glock, 9 or 45, hands down. Exclusive Glock Safe-Action trigger is a boon for safety but I understand safe gun-handling habits beat safety features hands down as far as not having accidents goes.

[meno377]

If one keeps the revolver hammer resting over an empty chamber, the gun can be fired fast in a hurry while still allowing the gun to be loaded and safe against accidental discharge as from dropping.

Having to rack a slide before firing is time consuming and could cost you your life in a combat situation.

That was meant for storage. Your nightstand gun has one in the chamber at night. But when you wake up the next morning, you would eject the round and reload into the magazine for storage while you are gone.

The D/A revolver can also be cocked fast to go into single action mode if time permits in an emergency. This will provide a lighter pull for a more well-placed shot if time permits.

The downfall of a revolver for some would be manually cocking every time to shoot single action.

If I had to have a semi, I would go for the Glock, 9 or 45, hands down. Exclusive Glock Safe-Action trigger is a boon for safety but I understand safe gun-handling habits beat safety features hands down as far as not having accidents goes.

Agree.

[Che762x39]

I haven't met too many people in the real world realm that most of us live in that can shoot a double action revolver very well. That includes myself and I'll bet it includes you.

I had 16 years of daily revolver experience. Ten years as Captain of the PPC team. Very seldom have I seen a good revolver shooter in the last ten years.

The average shooter will be much better served with an "autoloader" of their choice.

[JTROKS]

Now I really know you don't know what you're talking about.

Maybe he's talking about hunting?.... A few decades ago my 10.5" Ruger SBH is good cocking. Although I never had an old single action I had to rest the hammer on an empty.

[Che762x39]

The D/A revolver can also be cocked fast to go into single action mode if time permits in an emergency. This will provide a lighter pull for a more well-placed shot if time permits.

What scenario will that be? Ambush a bad guy?

Triggeronometry is all about mastering the DA revolver's trigger.

[orangeusa]

Big plus one-a-roono.

herd u talkin snit bout orange

We ain't gonna take it anymore. Orange is the new Pimpin..

[cvigue]

I retained this knowledge through reading countless articles of Gun Digest ...

Did you read the part where each cylinder of a revolver will align differently with the barrel, making them, all else equal, less accurate than a semi-auto? Also, leaving an empty chamber under the hammer is news from 1963, it's not of any value any more.

You're welcome.

[SG29736]

Other than shooters who compete with revolvers, I rarely see people at the range shooting double action. Occasionally I'll see someone shooting a snub nose without first cocking the hammer. Also some shooters shoot in double action so slowly to carefully stage the trigger, they might as well shoot single action.

[orangeusa]

I finally read OP. I realized I don't agree with anything posted.

Dial a wheel to select ammo? SNAKE : Out of ammo. Lol

[DonaldBabbett]

Now I really know you don't know what you're talking about.

If you honestly don't know what I am saying you don't know double-action revolvers from the Beatles Revolver album.