Something Completely Different

[elSquid]

This is interesting:



6 shot 25acp, fires two rounds with each trigger press.

Estimated price - $300. For that, I'd buy one as a curiosity.

I think I'd still rather have a J frame over it for personal protection.

-- Michael

[Marquand]

So for three trigger pulls I can get 6x .25 ACP rounds versus 3x .38 or 9mm rounds? No thanks. Hell, I'd take 3x .380 ACP rounds over 6x .25 ACP rounds.

As a novelty/fun gun, I'd love it. As a backup or deep concealment gun? I'm with elSquid - J Frame .38 all day long.

[Rusty_Shackleferd]

Doesn't matter because it's not on the roster. Now get back in this cave, it's sunny out there.

[The Gleam]

Doesn't matter because it's not on the roster. Now get back in this cave, it's sunny out there.

Doesn't seem that there would be anything to prevent it from getting on the Roster. It's not semi-automatic and not subject to microstamping, so would defer to most of the rules of the Roster applicable top revolvers.

[viet4lifeOC]

Hudson H9....drool

[Elgatodeacero]

I dont understand why someone would think this is a good design. It is unique and interesting, but just does not make a lot of sense.

And isnt this a machine gun under federal law?

26 USC 5845(b):

"(b) Machinegun
The term “machinegun” means any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person."

[Beendare]

I dont understand why someone would think this is a good design. It is unique and interesting, but just does not make a lot of sense. .....

The only thing I can think of is for a first time gun owner that knows absolutely NOTHING about guns...... and doesn't want to know anything. They just want to be able to pull the trigger.

[The Gleam]

The only thing I can think of is for a first time gun owner that knows absolutely NOTHING about guns...... and doesn't want to know anything. They just want to be able to pull the trigger.

That is somewhat how the individual describing the gun in the video implies as to the likely candidate for carry of such a gun - that and/or the mere simplicity of it.

I would not be interested but the part of my mind that welcomes new ideas doesn't completely think it's useless either. It has some attributes that are favorable to certain conditions.

[Bainter1212]

That is somewhat how the individual describing the gun in the video implies as to the likely candidate for carry of such a gun - that and/or the mere simplicity of it.

I would not be interested but the part of my mind that welcomes new ideas doesn't completely think it's useless either. It has some attributes that are favorable to certain conditions.

It sure does.

It is simple, and adds a bit more oomph to the .25acp round by hitting it's target with 2 of them at once.

It is better than a .22lr.....and there are a large number of people who carry a .22 for CCW.

[bruss01]

That is exactly what I thought - it fires more than one with a single trigger pull = machine gun under ATF definition, hence federal felony.

Reminds me of the 28-gauge revolver at a shot show a couple years ago. No way Jose. Sounded neat and got attention, but no way to market it.

[JeffSD]

Make it in.380 or some other caliber suitable for actually defending one's self. Cool design.

[The Gleam]

That is exactly what I thought - it fires more than one with a single trigger pull = machine gun under ATF definition, hence federal felony.

It's one shot; two projectiles.

"Shot" in the law above is the function of the cartridge going off by the gun, but if 2 happen simultaneously in unison, it's still just one shot - nor is it automatic. You would have to pull the trigger again to "shoot" again.

There have been numerous guns over the past 40 years that have such a feature, and they were not deemed to be machine guns.

I am sure they checked with ATF, and I'm more than certain it was deemed to be OK.

[Paladin]

No.

[Elgatodeacero]

No.

That was a good video.

They say that since it fires 2 rounds simultaneously, its non-NFA, as opposed to firing 2 rounds one after another. Pretty clever since it passed ATF approval as a volley gun.

I still feel it is a curio and oddity, not a sound choice for defense, but others may disagree and should buy away!

Id be more interested in one that fired a single shot at a time. Kind of strange they do not seem to offer one shot at a time model. Innovation continues.

The quote at the end is appropriate - "Just because you are unique does not mean you are useful" - even if a little harsh.

[csshih]

I fondled one at shot show.. it felt kind of cheap.