Ruger Charger

[9mmdude]

Can anyone think of a way to get this around being an assault weapon?

[live2offroad]

How would it be an AW in the first place? And with a ten round mag isn't it just a long pistol?

[Overkill]

The mag is outside of the grip = no no

[TheBundo]

I want one, I hope it will get approved here.

[9mmdude]

It falls under the category of an assault weapon because the magazine is outside the grip and it is a pistol. I am trying to figure out if a stock modification is doable. I can't figure a way around it.

[live2offroad]

It falls under the category of an assault weapon because the magazine is outside the grip and it is a pistol. I am trying to figure out if a stock modification is doable. I can't figure a way around it.

But... That's just retarded.. It's a .22 for gods sake.. Lame..

[kermit315]

this can be made legal same way as an AR pistol can I would assume. convert it to single shot/lock the mag in. dros it. then, it becomes semi auto again. always keep mag locked*, because if not, it will trigger AW status.

I am not sure how to make a 10/22 action single shot though. might be a sticking point.

*locked in this case means the same as an AR magazine locked. detachable is a problem, attachable isnt.

[thefurball]

But... That's just retarded.. It's a .22 for gods sake.. Lame..

Welcome to the PRK! Common sense has nothing to do with it.

[CHS]

I am not sure how to make a 10/22 action single shot though. might be a sticking point.

Replace the guide-rod spring with one that is too strong for a normal 22 hi-vel cartridge to cycle the action. You would then have to manually cycle the action every time you fire.

Then, take a standard 10/22 mag and open it up. Remove the spring, epoxy the follower in place so that the mag can only be used as a cartridge rest, like the bob sleds. Hell, you could even remove the spring and follower entirely, and just fill the mag with epoxy, and then carve out a shell carrier.

So now you have a manually-cycled, single-shot handgun.

The Charger definitely meets the overall length and barrel requirements to get in under the single-shot exemption.

[bohoki]

this can be made legal same way as an AR pistol can I would assume. convert it to single shot/lock the mag in. dros it. then, it becomes semi auto again. always keep mag locked*, because if not, it will trigger AW status.

I am not sure how to make a 10/22 action single shot though. might be a sticking point.

*locked in this case means the same as an AR magazine locked. detachable is a problem, attachable isnt.

single shot shouldnt be a problem jsut put in a little sled made of a wood block shaped like a magazine

an autoejecting single shot is still single shot

[CHS]

single shot shouldnt be a problem jsut put in a little sled made of a wood block shaped like a magazine

an autoejecting single shot is still single shot

That might not be enough to withstand any bit of legal scrutiny. As soon as you install a 10rd factory mag, it's semi-auto again.

Replacing the guide rod spring so that it can only be cycled by hand would be the safest way to "single shot" the gun.

[ojisan]

I spoke with 2 Ruger reps at the SHOT Show regarding getting the Charger approved for CA. Magazine outside of pistol grip, no magazine disconnect safety, no Loaded Chamber Indicator all mean no-way.
However, the exemption for Walther, Pardini etc target pistols from the Roster raises a possibilty. There is a guy who works with the DOJ on the Olympic/ target pistols models list. If we can get him to seek approval for this model as a target pistol, which it definitely is, perhaps there is a chance. The Ruger guys seemed genuinly interested in this approach, they know we want them here and will make a bunch of money if they get this approved.
Is it possible anybody here knows the Olympic Pistol guy / board etc and can arrange for a dialog?
I ran across his info somewhere a couple months back but I can't find it now.
The Charger needs to added to this List:

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/op.pdf

[DedEye]

I spoke with 2 Ruger reps at the SHOT Show regarding getting the Charger approved for CA. Magazine outside of pistol grip, no magazine disconnect safety, no Loaded Chamber Indicator all mean no-way.
However, the exemption for Walther, Pardini etc target pistols from the Roster raises a possibilty. There is a guy who works with the DOJ on the Olympic/ target pistols models list. If we can get him to seek approval for this model as a target pistol, which it definitely is, perhaps there is a chance. The Ruger guys seemed genuinly interested in this approach, they know we want them here and will make a bunch of money if they get this approved.
Is it possible anybody here knows the Olympic Pistol guy / board etc and can arrange for a dialog?
I ran across his info somewhere a couple months back but I can't find it now.
The Charger needs to added to this List:
http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/op.pdf

Does the Olympic pistol exemption override AW laws? To my knowledge it doesn't, in which case you'll need a 10/22 mag lock as well.

[bohoki]

Does the Olympic pistol exemption override AW laws? To my knowledge it doesn't, in which case you'll need a 10/22 mag lock as well.

naa they wont allow its exemption sicne it costs less than $1000

[ojisan]

Does the Olympic pistol exemption override AW laws? To my knowledge it doesn't, in which case you'll need a 10/22 mag lock as well.

I believe the Walthers and others have detachable mags.
But the $1,000 price minimum?