Help !! You 1911 experts, Play in frame to slide

[Kruzr]

Perfectly normal for a Colt. It's not like you bought a Baer (or even a Kimber for that matter.)

As noted above, if all you are after is Center of Mass accuracy, it should be fine. If you want a target gun from a Colt, then a gunsmith has to get involved.

Kuhnhausen says slide to frame fit accounts for about 15% of a gun's accuracy.

[wash]

The sights move with the frame so as long as they are lined up right it shouldn't have much effect.

While it is somewhat correct that a loose fit will make the gun more reliable, it also makes for fewer warranty returns and QC rejects. I'm sure the latter two reasons are why Colt makes them that way.

[sammy]

You need a history lesson. The internet is you friend, go have a look around.


Toss your Les Baer in a mud puddle, then shoot without cleaning.

FYI, Colt has been making 1911's about 90 years longer than Les Baer

Not thrown in a puddle but the most filthy 1911 I have ever seen. Still ran perfect. Anyone with a rattle trap Colt that can out shoot my Baer gets a 100 pack of WWB. 5 shots at 15 yards, best out of three wins. I can meet you at Concord USI the weekend of 7th or 8th of next month.

[Black Majik]

Not thrown in a puddle but the most filthy 1911 I have ever seen. Still ran perfect. Anyone with a rattle trap Colt that can out shoot my Baer gets a 100 pack of WWB. 5 shots at 15 yards, best out of three wins. I can meet you at Concord USI the weekend of 7th or 8th of next month.

Just a heads up, but I've seen some rattle trap Colts that will give a Baer a run for their money...

Past 25 yards is where a Baer really shines. While it's definitely mostly shooter's ability, it'll give you an advantage with its inherent mechanical accuracy.

[GM4spd]

Not thrown in a puddle but the most filthy 1911 I have ever seen. Still ran perfect. Anyone with a rattle trap Colt that can out shoot my Baer gets a 100 pack of WWB. 5 shots at 15 yards, best out of three wins. I can meet you at Concord USI the weekend of 7th or 8th of next month.

You got me there/you win---anyone that would let a pistol get that cruddy is
someone I don't want to compete against. Pete

[tankerman]

[IMG]
Not thrown in a puddle but the most filthy 1911 I have ever seen. Still ran perfect. Anyone with a rattle trap Colt that can out shoot my Baer gets a 100 pack of WWB. 5 shots at 15 yards, best out of three wins. I can meet you at Concord USI the weekend of 7th or 8th of next month.

This is about reliability, not accuracy.

The fact that you don't know about Colt 1911's or their history tells me all I need to know.

I can get a 1911 that dirty in one day of shooting.............specially if grease is over applied and shoot WWB. I'm not impressed.

And BTW, without Colt and their "rattle traps" staying in continuous production for 100 years, you wouldn't be able to act like a snotty Baer high-end gunowner.

[sammy]

This is about reliability, not accuracy.

The fact that you don't know about Colt 1911's or their history tells me all I need to know.

I can get a 1911 that dirty in one day of shooting.............specially if grease is over applied and shoot WWB. I'm not impressed.

And BTW, without Colt and their "rattle traps" staying in continuous production for 100 years, you wouldn't be able to act like a snotty Baer high-end gunowner.

Huh? Where did we go wrong here? Sorry if I hit a nerve.

[dfletcher]

Put me down for one of each please. If I want to punch holes in paper with a 1911 I'll take the Baer, if I want to punch holes in people with a 1911 I'll take the Colt.

Actually, the loosest most rattletrap 1911 I've ever owned, a 1980's Detonics, never missed a beat. I used to load it with a 300 grain H & G semiwadcutter, it went bang all the time and still runs fine.

[JDay]

That rattle means you don't need to clean it.

[Beelzy]

LOL!!!!

A 1911 Cherry!!!!

Enjoy Lucille.

(Colt's rule don't let anyone tell you otherwise)

[tankerman]

Huh? Where did we go wrong here? Sorry if I hit a nerve.

You are basing your argument on your one gun..........others are speaking from experience and knowledge that comes from owning, shooting a variety of 1911's including Colts and 100 years of Colt 1911 history.

[tpirman]

I bought a Colt recently. I think I got lucky (Blued Colt Governement XSE) because there is some slide movement side to side but not much. I've done extensive research and found exactly what this thread is saying, it doesn't matter, doesn't affect accuracy (for the most part) and in some cases is actually a good thing. Just to calm my OCD, I shook and rattled my Sig and Glock, my previous go-to guns and they rattle worse on all accounts. I figure if they didn't bother me, then why would the 1911 rattle bother me? Besides, I am finding the 1911 way more accurate for me.

[Icarus]

You don't have to put 500 rounds thru a Colt government to break it in and be reliable. It's good to go in any environment out of the box.

[Colt]

Your Colt should be fine. As mentioned above, the original specs from JMB (John Moses Browning) and the DOD called for some play. Colts are awesome and generally well built. My bone stock '52 Government model is extremely accurate and totally reliable.

By the way, the XSE mentioned above has what Colt calls enhanced tolerances, so will be little tighter.

Congrats on a great pistol. Enjoy!

[1911whore]

colt rattle

There is an old saying that is fitting....."she rattles like an old colt" per the original design they were made to shoot, AND be reliable as anything SO they made em loose. you can much them up and they run like an AK, meaning you shouldnt be able to stop them. Too many folks pay too much attention to a tight fitting slide to frame fit. the MOST important thing is a consistant barrel lockup.