G17 upgrades

[Citizen_B]

The guide rod add weight to the muzzle to help reduce felt recoil.

The effect on recoil is minimal. It's helps somewhat with muzzle flip so you can get back on target faster. Actual benefit varies from person to person.

[AreWeFree]

The effect on recoil is minimal. It's helps somewhat with muzzle flip so you can get back on target faster. Actual benefit varies from person to person.

Shhhhhh!! It does nothing except empty your walllet. Don't tell anyone, it's a secret.

[kriller134]

Thank you citizen that's sound advice.

[NiteQwill]

Have you considered reading the USPSA rule book?

If you want to stay in production class, keep your gun stock.

The best upgrade for shooting production is ammo or get into reloading. No upgrade on your gun will match trigger time.

I have a new shooter that asked me the same question less than a year ago with his brand new Glock 17. His gun is completely stock with no modifications and he is an A class shooter now in less than 11 months.

[Germ1]

Shhhhhh!! It does nothing except empty your walllet. Don't tell anyone, it's a secret.

This, metal guide rod in a Glock is probably the most worthless mod you can buy for a Glock. Unless you own a Glock 18, or a converted 17. That and those stupid butt plugs, also stay away from any of those titanium parts. Barrel is pretty worthless too from the research I've done. Makes minimal if any difference.
Training and more experience behind the gun will make you a better shooter more than any modification will. I can shoot pretty tight groups out of a stock 4 inch barrel with a pretty much stock gen 3 Glock 19.

tti springs(or whatever your choice is)
OEM -connector
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this alone will bring trigger pull down to around three pounds. So light the trigger safety doesn't work.

and some sights, my preference is 10-8 performance with a fo front.

In my opinion all these heavily modded Glocks do is inflate your ego. Which in turn effects your state of mind making you more confident, and maybe a "slightly" better shooter. Not making the gun more accurate, the gun is already more accurate than any person can be. Only mods I would do are the three I listed above. Springs, connector, and sights.


My cousin shot these groups I circled at 10yd and 15yd. Pretty damn tight groups, all I have in my 19 is a OEM -connector and a polish job. Oh, and a Glock 17 flat trigger/trigger bar. But that does nothing to improve performance. Just personal preference.

[Stumpfenhammer]

I run these for production on my G17: https://dueckdefense.com/shop/firear...ht-for-glocks/

[kriller134]

Have you considered reading the USPSA rule book?

If you want to stay in production class, keep your gun stock.

The best upgrade for shooting production is ammo or get into reloading. No upgrade on your gun will match trigger time.

I have a new shooter that asked me the same question less than a year ago with his brand new Glock 17. His gun is completely stock with no modifications and he is an A class shooter now in less than 11 months.

I have read the parts about division. Now that I got some clarification on limited 10 I think I might be headed that way. I'm reloading right now and I'm looking up power factor and trying to get a better understanding. Thank you for your input.

[kriller134]

They have Open 10?

Oops I meant limited 10 I'll go back and edit my post.

[hermosabeach]

For competition, keep it stock and check out what gear others are running.

Can you shoot their guns?
Will those parts work for you?

[Citizen_B]

Also, just because mod parts help some/most users, it may not be right for you specifically. For example, I used to run an extended slide release with the little nub. It makes locking back and dropping the slide very much easier for me. It's great for training/practice classes where you're doing many repetitive malfunction drills (saves thumb wear). However.. a double feed jam/malfunction is relatively rare in real world. I usually drop the slide with overhand, opposed to using the slide stop to release. Because my grip rides high on the gun, I occasionally/unintentionally put slight pressure on the slide stop which sometimes prevents it from locking back on empty mag. All of these are minor issues but for me the benefits of the extended release didn't outweigh the drawbacks. I may go back to an extended release (maybe Vickers version) if I start training to drop the slide with stop or work on a more consistent grip that avoids contact with the stop, but that's just where I'm at now. I wouldn't have known these issues if I started with that extended slide stop. So, it's best to start with a stock setup to establish a basis of knowledge for your style.

[Citizen_B]

I have read the parts about division. Now that I got some clarification on limited 10 I think I might be headed that way. I'm reloading right now and I'm looking up power factor and trying to get a better understanding. Thank you for your input.

First of all, what is your objective for competition? Increasing proficiency for SD application? Strictly for gaming fun?

If it's for the former, I suggest sticking with Production. Limited would be fine too if you're just using matches as a way for you to run the gun. However, I suggest starting stock for the reasons previously mentioned.

If it's for the latter, shoot whatever you think you'll have the most fun. I don't shoot Open but it sure looks fun running a game gun.

Don't get discouraged about Limited scoring. Just getting new guys to any match is a win for everyone. I shot a classifier match under Limited with my Production gun and scored lower but not terrible.

[Citizen_B]

You can't use the Vickers slide release in Production.

When I ran it (G34, non-Vickers), I had looked up and was told it was ok to run the G34 slide stop on a G17 Production. Perhaps that was incorrect but nobody blinked. I didn't know the Vickers is not production legal but that would make sense.

Powerstroking/sling shotting is just slower and nobody who does well in USPSA/IDPA uses that technique.

This is true, however that doesn't make it a wrong technique depending on training level/intention.

Also, nobody goes to slide lock in USPSA.

Lol, well, if you perfectly plan/shoot a stage, have no malfunctions, and don't have a target that needs the 10th/11th round, this is true. This doesn't always happen to me.

Since dude is looking to outfit his Glock for competition, perhaps people with competition experience can share what works for them, and non-competition guys can hold off making recommendations.

Under your logic, only GMs should be giving advise in this thread. You're likely classified higher than me, but I'm pretty sure neither of us are GMs.

[kriller134]

My objective is to get better at shooting and to have fun. The couple of matches I've been to have been mixed feelings. The first match was the best time I've ever had shooting. I was squaded with a great group of people that were welcoming. The second time not so much. A lot of the guys were taking it really serious and that's cool, but they were a bit unwelcoming.

I'm not worried about getting spanked. I'm there for my own personal gain and not worried about time. My goal is to clear stages and get good hits. I really appreciate all of your guy's input and advice.

[kriller134]

I just don't see the point of shooting a G34 in Lim 10 just so you can use a mag well.

You're right. I think I'm going to stick to production. Since I'm a lefty I wouldn't be using an extended mag release or slide stop. Thank you for your insight.

[Citizen_B]

My objective is to get better at shooting and to have fun. The couple of matches I've been to have been mixed feelings. The first match was the best time I've ever had shooting. I was squaded with a great group of people that were welcoming. The second time not so much. A lot of the guys were taking it really serious and that's cool, but they were a bit unwelcoming.

I'm not worried about getting spanked. I'm there for my own personal gain and not worried about time. My goal is to clear stages and get good hits. I really appreciate all of your guy's input and advice.

Personally I think that's a great reason.

It's important to understand the reason why someone wants to compete because it changes advice. If you're serious about classifying high, follow Hopeton's and other's gaming advice. If it's for fun, just get out there and shoot whatever you got. I don't know what area you're in, but maybe try a different range/club. I shot matches at three different locations: one I disliked and not going back, one was fine and occasionally go back, one was even better with a fun bunch of guys.