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  • #16
    ojisan
    Agent 86
    CGN Contributor
    • Apr 2008
    • 11768

    Just curious, I have not heard of any propensity for these frames to fail.
    I did some Googling and found nothing about P series frame breakage, except this one from a long thread at the firing line:

    "The only "problem" "P" was a P89 that spent a few hours on an Interstate down in Texas. The frame was pounded to the point that the grip area eventually cracked. However, the slide seems OK..."


    Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
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    • #17
      Bobby Ricigliano
      Mit Gott und Mauser
      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2011
      • 17439

      I have three P89DC's and they are indestructible. 100% reliability as well. One of the best full sized duty pistols ever made.

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      • #18
        wpage
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2011
        • 6071

        This is also the first problem on the P95 I ever heard...

        Feed problems are generally related to what has been mentioned the angle of the feed ramp. Polishing of the feed ramp, angle of magazines, ammo heads. Etc.
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        • #19
          crufflers
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jul 2011
          • 12723

          Originally posted by CASEC
          I like Ruger but this i their worst offering. They didn't put steel rails in their frame for the slide to ride on. The slide just runs on a stiff plastic frame like a high point. Ruger's P85 P85 mk2 P89 are tanks. Just don't drop any of their metal frame pistols on a hard surface because they have cast frames. I have seen p95s jam before. Just clean it really well and keep it as a range toy. Get Mag replacement springs and a replacement slide spring. Thats about all you can do.
          That "plastic" is glass embedded or glass filled nylon. The way it wears would not compare to any plastic or polymer I can think of. It seems more like an industrial epoxy. In other words it doesn't melt, flex, or wear like other grip frames (that absolutely need steel inserts).

          I'd venture to guess it is their toughest auto pistol. The only thing I've done to mine was replace the RSA and add mecgars.

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          • #20
            CASEC
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 884

            Originally posted by crufflers
            That "plastic" is glass embedded or glass filled nylon. The way it wears would not compare to any plastic or polymer I can think of. It seems more like an industrial epoxy. In other words it doesn't melt, flex, or wear like other grip frames (that absolutely need steel inserts).

            I'd venture to guess it is their toughest auto pistol. The only thing I've done to mine was replace the RSA and add mecgars.
            I really like the old ugly P89 as the last derivative of the P85. I'm a fan of high cap 9mms and things that last forever and that's about as close as you can get if you maintain it and don't abuse it. What many ppl don't know is the P85 was designed as a .45 and was remade as a 9mm for the Army trials of 85/86 that left us with the Beretta 92. Where the beretta was made to be a 9mm and suffered some breakage under extreme use and has to be beefed up the Ruger has no such problem. You can improve Ruger sights, grips, and to a lesser degree mags but they just run. Switch out mag springs once a year if it's a duty weapon that stays loaded. Replace other springs when round counts get high, and just shoot it. The P89 is so big and heavy it shoots like a BB gun.
            The one thing I don't like about Ruger is the cast frame. I have only seen 1 or 2 that broke in half and that might have been a void in the casting. I don't really worry about it because I don't generally drop my guns on concrete. As far as the P95 I really want to like it. I like cheap reliable guns. I used to manage 50 armed guards so I have seen every cheap gun that could be pressed into service imaginable. Kel Tecs, Tauruses, High Points, Rugers, old beat 3rd gen S&Ws, I even had a guy try to carry a lorcin one time. I just remember I had a guy with a P95 that was trying to qualify and we couldn't get the weapon to run for love nor money. It just would not reliably cycle. If a pistol isn't real close to 100% reliable I'd just as soon carry a revolver. Granted the gun was pretty beat. Maybe I should try a new one.
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            • #21
              crufflers
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2011
              • 12723

              Originally posted by CASEC
              I had a guy with a P95 that was trying to qualify and we couldn't get the weapon to run for love nor money. It just would not reliably cycle. If a pistol isn't real close to 100% reliable I'd just as soon carry a revolver. Granted the gun was pretty beat. Maybe I should try a new one.
              Mine is an OLD P95 DC. Cost $220 new, IIRC. Never had any issues. Even when the RSA retainer broke or was lost, it still cycled fine. I ran it like that for years before replacing it.

              Cycled fine with generic 15 round mags, or factory tens, or Mecgar 17's. After 1000's of rounds they just get smoother cycling and the trigger really smooths out. My uncle has the K model DC with stainless slide. Same reliability, same gun.

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              • #22
                crufflers
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2011
                • 12723

                Originally posted by CASEC
                Switch out mag springs once a year if it's a duty weapon that stays loaded. Replace other springs when round counts get high, and just shoot it. The P89 is so big and heavy it shoots like a BB gun
                Good springs don't wear out from being continually compressed even for 20 years.

                Yeah the P95 is a big heavy lug too, little recoil. Also heavy / bulky to lug around and some would say really ugly. It does just work though which is what counts.

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                • #23
                  CASEC
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 884

                  Originally posted by crufflers
                  Good springs don't wear out from being continually compressed even for 20 years.

                  Yeah the P95 is a big heavy lug too, little recoil. Also heavy / bulky to lug around and some would say really ugly. It does just work though which is what counts.
                  I really like the P89 especially for security guards. It's super cheap so they can afford it. It always works. It's a big heavy brick so they are less likely to stick it in their pants when they are off duty.

                  There is always debate about springs. For what they cost I feel better replacing them once a year on duty weapons. They are never empty and it's cheap insurance. I can say I've never had a good quality duty weapon quit working because of spring compression.
                  Last edited by CASEC; 10-31-2015, 3:20 PM.
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                  • #24
                    BigPimping
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 21459

                    I had one. I really like that a lot and I had it for a long time. I still have the legally acquired standard capacity magazines for it as well. I sold it but I hang on to the magazines in case someday I can acquire another one at a good price.
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                    • #25
                      Capybara
                      CGSSA Coordinator
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 15428

                      Originally posted by BigPimping
                      ...I hang on to the magazines in case someday I can acquire another one at a good price.
                      Or in case Governor elect Newsom comes knocking on your door for them next year after the sheeple vote for his misguided, tyrannical ballot initiative. I'm in the same boat.
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                      • #26
                        homelessdude
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 2123

                        I've shot thousands of rounds thru my P 89. It is like the big ugly car that just keeps running and running.

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                        • #27
                          Bobby Ricigliano
                          Mit Gott und Mauser
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 17439

                          Cheap aftermarket magazines
                          Cheap underpowered reloads
                          Poor maintenance
                          Limpwristing

                          Probably one of the above, not the pistol itself.

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                          • #28
                            Bill1957
                            Senior Member
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 997

                            The pistol has arrived at Ruger. Should find out some things in a few days.
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                            • #29
                              ojisan
                              Agent 86
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 11768

                              Please keep us updated.

                              Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                              I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                              • #30
                                Bill1957
                                Senior Member
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 997

                                Received a call from Ruger today. The pistol is being shipped back to me today.

                                They replaced the sear and blocker lever. They repaired the firing pin and left and right safety levers. They fired 40 rounds of two different ammo's using all 4 of my mags. No failures.

                                I'm supposed to receive the pistol on Monday. I'll go to the range the following Friday and then report back.
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