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  • #46
    Click Boom
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2013
    • 6955

    Originally posted by static2126
    Yup same. On good days it's like oooh...then on other days....

    Am I the only one who finds is easier shooting at a head type target or small steel target vs a bullseye?

    Same side, I get better results with the first two...go figure
    I think its ~way~ easier to shoot at a hanging silhouette or gong than paper that's on a larger background that is the same distance. Way easier.

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    • #47
      static2126
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2013
      • 5618

      My childhook acquaintance learned bullseye shooting as a military brat. Off hand one handed 25 yards, groups were the size of a quarter....insane

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      • #48
        Fishslayer
        In Memoriam
        • Jan 2010
        • 13035

        Originally posted by jumbopanda
        I'm sure 90% of shooters couldn't even group 2.5" at 7 yards.
        If your groups are small you're shooting too slow! Train like you fight!
        "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
        You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
        You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


        Originally Posted by JackRydden224
        I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
        Originally posted by redcliff
        A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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        • #49
          jumbopanda
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2006
          • 8382

          Originally posted by Fishslayer
          If your groups are small you're shooting too slow! Train like you fight!
          I'd like to, but the range master yells at me.
          Mo' BBs.

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          • #50
            jeffrice6
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2006
            • 5150

            If I could shoot Baer's 3" @ 50 I'd be a porn (make that) rockstar!
            WTB: S&W 617 4" 10 shot Pre-Lock

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            • #51
              Moon Glorious
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 86

              Lot's of nonsense in this thread. If a pistol is capable of 2" accuracy and you can only shoot 4", you've got a 4" group. If the pistol is capable of 4" accuracy you've got 8" groups. Anybody that thinks you won't see the difference between a 1.5" and 2.5" pistol unless you're capable shooting the pistol to the extreme limits of it's potential is wrong. Take the most accurate pistol you have and the least accurate you have out and shoot both. If you can't see the obvious difference, there's something wrong with you. There's a big difference between a hit and a miss. All things being equal the more accurate pistol will be more forgiving. The increase in price is most likely because they are making the 1.5" pistol meet the same standards of reliability as the 2.5" pistol.

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              • #52
                JTROKS
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2007
                • 13093

                Originally posted by Moon Glorious
                Lot's of nonsense in this thread. If a pistol is capable of 2" accuracy and you can only shoot 4", you've got a 4" group. If the pistol is capable of 4" accuracy you've got 8" groups. Anybody that thinks you won't see the difference between a 1.5" and 2.5" pistol unless you're capable shooting the pistol to the extreme limits of it's potential is wrong. Take the most accurate pistol you have and the least accurate you have out and shoot both. If you can't see the obvious difference, there's something wrong with you. There's a big difference between a hit and a miss. All things being equal the more accurate pistol will be more forgiving. The increase in price is most likely because they are making the 1.5" pistol meet the same standards of reliability as the 2.5" pistol.
                I highly agree. When I was in my early 20s when I learned the fundamentals of marksmanship I can shoot a 2" group at 25 yards offhand with my 6" GP100 when I'm in the groove. When I switched to a partridge front sight I can keep all my shots in the black at 50 yards. I also have a race gun that was amazingly accurate as I can consistently shoot an 8" steel plate at 100 yards.

                For someone to shoot accurately one must know your gun, ammo and equipment. Fundamentals of shooting accurately. If shooting iron sights you must be able to see the front sight clearly.
                The wise man said just find your place
                In the eye of the storm
                Seek the roses along the way
                Just beware of the thorns...
                K. Meine

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                • #53
                  saki302
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 7181

                  If you're only capable of shooting a 4" group @ 50 yards- the inaccuracy of your pistol is ADDED to your group- i.e. ~5.5" overall vs. 7" overall. You'll see the difference.

                  To actually see the benefit of the 1.5" pistols you'll probably have to handload or use match grade ammo.

                  I own one (1.5 PII)- my friend has a 3" TR. If you rack them, the TR is much harder to rack (both are new), but the 1.5" is smoother. You can tell they put a little more effort into it.

                  I've won a couple local fun shoots, IMO the 1.5" is worth it for me (I also handload). For the average joe who's going to feed their gun crap ammo and can barely turn in a 5" group at 7 yards, get the 3"

                  -Dave

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