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  • #31
    Robert1234
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2006
    • 3080

    There are those that love them (Kimber) and those that hate them. I am neither. Mine works, I have a couple of friends who have Kimbers, and they have no issues. So my opinion of Kimber is not negative.

    Same with Springfield. People love their customer service, and I'm a huge fan of good customer service. That's why when I needed the 9mm 1911, I went with Springfield (that and the fact that I'm limited to Kimber and Springfield in California, and Springfield was what was on the shelf).

    I've never needed the customer service department on any gun I've bought, if they have issues, most often it's something I can figure out and fix in short order. My Springfield is loose. It shoots good, so it doesn't really bother me that much (actually it does bother me but not enough to spend $200.00 on a barrel that would lock up better while in battery).

    However, I did sent an e mail to Springfield customer service asking about it and they never responded. In their defense, I never followed up on the e mail, again cause the gun shoots good. I have a friend who has a Mil Spec, it shot horrible, with like a 10 lb trigger. He contacted Springfield, they made his gun shoot really well, and did a decent trigger job as well. Changed the slide, barrel, bushing and hammer and sear. Great customer service.

    I would be interested in their response after they noticed that the only original parts left in the gun are the frame, slide, ejector, extractor, barrel and rear sight.

    Great customer service is good, but having such a huge record of customers needing that customer service is not so good. That said, I'd buy another if I needed one. I'd just give it a better inspection in the gun store.

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    • #32
      hundreddollarman
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 1485

      Springer because it was the word "Operator" on the slide! :P

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      • #33
        Virus55
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 1697

        I have two kimbers myself, working on getting a third one. Ill vote kimber.....
        Active Law Enforcement
        Certified Glock Armorer
        Hunter & Fisherman
        God Bless The USA
        Lets Go Brandon!!!

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        • #34
          INFAMOUS762X39
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 1458

          Love my Kimber TLE. My first handgun I ever bought. Mine shoots amazing and slide to frame fit is tighter than my Colt series 70s.

          That being said. Go with the Springfield. Lifetime warranty and SA Customs is superb.

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          • #35
            asphaltcowboychip
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 1035

            I'm a big Springfield fan, their customer service has been beyond good to me
            What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us
            What we have done for the others and the world remains
            And is Immortal.

            Do not go gentle into that good night.*
            Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

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            • #36
              fullspeed1
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 1908

              Love my Operator.

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              • #37
                monsterFD
                Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 228

                Originally posted by fullspeed1
                Love my Operator.
                +1^
                love my Operator so much she gets to goto bed with me

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                • #38
                  safety-1st
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 1300

                  Ok you guys convinced me SA it is! Those are beautiful!

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                  • #39
                    k1dude
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • May 2009
                    • 15612

                    I know a guy that bought a new Operator MC and the slide was so tight on the frame that you could barely hand cycle it. We cleaned the heck out of it and it still would barely hand cycle. Needless to say, it wouldn't cycle shooting either.

                    I told him to send it back to Springfield because they have good customer service and they would take care of it. I haven't seen him in a while so I don't know what happened with his CS experience.

                    I was just surprised they would let an Operator leave the factory when you could barely hand cycle it.
                    "Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill

                    "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Senator Barry Goldwater

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                    • #40
                      santamonica9
                      In Memoriam
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 1475

                      springfield armory 1911 mc operator - no extra firing pin block ala series 80 vs 70 also
                      I mainly shoot .22lr, 9mm,45 acp, 357 & 38, 12G, 7.62x39, .308, .223/556, 7.62x54r, 300 win mag, 8x57
                      God Bless USA

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                      • #41
                        7008gun
                        Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 335

                        1911

                        Hands down SA

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                        • #42
                          safety-1st
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 1300

                          Originally posted by k1dude
                          I was just surprised they would let an Operator leave the factory when you could barely hand cycle it.
                          I am equally surprised the person buying a handgun did not notice this slide issue while inspecting the handgun during purchase. How can you leave the store without racking it a couple times? I do this even when I have zero intentions to buy the gun lol

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                          • #43
                            Chapped Hide
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 3901

                            Originally posted by k1dude
                            I know a guy that bought a new Operator MC and the slide was so tight on the frame that you could barely hand cycle it. We cleaned the heck out of it and it still would barely hand cycle. Needless to say, it wouldn't cycle shooting either.

                            I told him to send it back to Springfield because they have good customer service and they would take care of it. I haven't seen him in a while so I don't know what happened with his CS experience.

                            I was just surprised they would let an Operator leave the factory when you could barely hand cycle it.
                            Originally posted by safety-1st
                            I am equally surprised the person buying a handgun did not notice this slide issue while inspecting the handgun during purchase. How can you leave the store without racking it a couple times? I do this even when I have zero intentions to buy the gun lol
                            My Pro Operator is still this way after 500 rounds and I ain't complaining
                            **** your feelings!

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                            • #44
                              benjamac
                              Member
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 377

                              My cash would quickly go to SA- either for that mc op, or better yet, a trp
                              Don't be $h!tty.

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                              • #45
                                k1dude
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • May 2009
                                • 15612

                                Originally posted by safety-1st
                                I am equally surprised the person buying a handgun did not notice this slide issue while inspecting the handgun during purchase. How can you leave the store without racking it a couple times? I do this even when I have zero intentions to buy the gun lol
                                It was purchased online. This was during the insanity when there was no local stock anywhere to be found.
                                "Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill

                                "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Senator Barry Goldwater

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