Pulled the Trigger on a Kimber

[johnny_boy02]

Now, seriously. Stop intentionally insulting me just because you can. I know the internet gives people a big e-penis at times. But this is community. As adult members of this community we can have a discussion without the personal attacks. Even when we disagree. Can't we?

You have it all wrong, you should be happy to be insulted by someone that is so obviously awesome and knows so much more than us mere mortals.

[tacticalcity]

Nobody is personally attacking anybody. I didn't follow your logic of 15 year gun part dealer being an expert in self defense. I'm sure you'd agree the dumbest stuff we've ever heard gun related were in gun stores.

Come on now, you're back peddling. You were being intentionally rude and trying to bait me.

You called me a know it all because I went to Front Sight and told me I should shut up because you weren't talking to me anyway.

Then followed it up by saying my 15+ years selling gun parts and my conversations with the designers at Trijicon doesn't mean I know anything about night sights because of some logic I didn't follow.

You then took a jab at company name, implying I am a mall ninja...it's just a catchy name and a short web address that people would remember that sounded cool 15 years ago...but whatever.

I don't really care...but you were being rude...on purpose...and it's not exactly a nice way to spend a Monday evening.

Now, to your more recent point.

Yes, there are some goofy stuff in stores. I even sell some of that goofy stuff. People want it, and I have rent to pay. If it is not dangerous, and has some entertainment value (thinking Zombie Hostage Targets and laser etched Glock End Plates with quirky logos on them) then I don't see the harm. Nothing wrong with something having more entertainment value than function...provided everybody knows that going in. However, I don't think night sights fall into that category.

I talked about the purpose for night sights and how they should best be used with guys who design them. Specifically because I thought the name was weird since you need a decent amount of ambient light for them to be useful. They explained it to me the way I posted above. I figure they probably know a little something about how they intended their products to be used. They might not have invented them, I don't know, but they are one the top manufacturers of them.

I've also got 20+ years using them, and have found them very handy over the years.

I am fine if you don't like them. I love them, and am very glad I had them when I needed them. The young lady I saved is just glad I didn't ignore her screams like everyone else in the apartment complex.

I am fine if you think Front Sight is a joke. I found their courses useful. Made me a better shooter than they found me, as have the other schools I attended, and I am grateful.

I'm even fine if ya don't like me. But I would submit, ya don't know me. Just a few random opinions I have on guns.

[Ranger20]

Congrats on your Kimber... I hope you try to wear it out... Have fun with it..

Learn it well enough that in function and manual of arms you will develop muscle memory with the grip, thumb safety handling and mag changes.

Sites and Grips can make a difference... it's a personal thing, I'm sure you will discover what works best for you.

I have guns with and without night sites... The ones with night sites work just fine in the day as well... In no or low light conditions I appreciate having night sites as an option. You got to figure out that one on your own...

The good thing is Kimbers come set up pretty nice... Again, Congratulations!

[stormvet]

While they argue, let's get back to the OP's question on mags.
You'll get a lot of different answers, but obviously the best mags for you are the ones that work the best in your gun. Many people are more then happy with the stock Kimber mags, while others say they are garbage. If your stock mag works in your gun and your OK with a seven round mag, you can find them cheap.
I currently use Tripp Cobra, Wilson ETM and 47d, Kimber Tac mags, CMC power mags and match grade. I like eight round mags, my carry 1911s use flush fitting Kimber tac mags and CMC match grade. My full size 1911s all have mag wells and use mags with a large base Tripp, ETM and power mag.
The longer mag body of the Tripp and ETM are the best set up for eight round mags, but my Tac mags and match grades all function great in my less then 5" guns. I use Kimber tac mags in my Ed Brown SF carry.
But I will say if you asked me my opinion on the very best 1911 mag, hands down the Tripp Cobra mag.

[tacticalcity]

Didn't tell you to shut up, it's all still up there. I said I didn't ask you. I didn't quote your post, I quoted Son Of A WWII Drill Instructor. Was wondering why he felt the Kimber owner just *has* to have night sights. It's been my experience that most people would be better served with DAY sights, as we do 99.99% of our shooting in the light.

Well, I am sure he'll answer in time.

If I may offer my guess...

I don't think it is just Kimber or Kimber owners. Seems like once you get past the base model most manufacturers add them, or an adjustable target sight, something beyond regular fixed sights. I would assume it is because people like them, and the competition was doing so it so they followed suit. Everybody loves an "upgrade" whether they need it or not.

As for why he digs them...he'll have to get back to ya.

[LowThudd]

As far as sights go, I am leaning towards the TruGlo TFX. They have both Tritium and fiber optics, as well as a white ring around the front sight for contrast. I am finding them near $110 and that is not to bad. https://www.truglo.com/firearms-hand...30C1841BDD3D5E

[tacticalcity]

While they argue, let's get back to the OP's question on mags.
You'll get a lot of different answers, but obviously the best mags for you are the ones that work the best in your gun. Many people are more then happy with the stock Kimber mags, while others say they are garbage. If your stock mag works in your gun and your OK with a seven round mag, you can find them cheap.
I currently use Tripp Cobra, Wilson ETM and 47d, Kimber Tac mags, CMC power mags and match grade. I like eight round mags, my carry 1911s use flush fitting Kimber tac mags and CMC match grade. My full size 1911s all have mag wells and use mags with a large base Tripp, ETM and power mag.
The longer mag body of the Tripp and ETM are the best set up for eight round mags, but my Tac mags and match grades all function great in my less then 5" guns. I use Kimber tac mags in my Ed Brown SF carry.
But I will say if you asked me my opinion on the very best 1911 mag, hands down the Tripp Cobra mag.

Have yet to try the Tripp Cobras. Nice to know.

[tacticalcity]

As far as sights go, I am leaning towards the TruGlo TFX. They have both Tritium and fiber optics, as well as a white ring around the front sight for contrast. I am finding them near $110 and that is not to bad. https://www.truglo.com/firearms-hand...30C1841BDD3D5E

Check around at your local shops to see what they offer in stock and if their price includes the install. Sometimes they are something that goes right in no problem. Other times they are a major pain and require fitting...even when using a pusher. And most shops overcharge to do just an install with your sights, but include the install in their pricing which is more than fair, in order to encourage you to buy from them. Just trying to prepare ya and give you a heads up for ya might experience. Then again you might not.

You might find you don't need them, at least not right away. They come with all black sights that really are great for shooting at the range during the day. If and when you master it and it becomes you night stand gun, concealed carry gun, or duty gun...then changing the sights might be a good idea. Your money, your call. Not trying to talk you out of anything or into anything. Just trying to save you the frustration I experienced getting sights onto mine. Talk about one very snug fit...and I overpaid to get them installed because they just weren't cooperating for me. Had that happen on only one other gun, the rest went on like butter. Ya never know.

Also, I wouldn't be so hasty and toss the Kimber mag as others suggested. I wouldn't go out and buy more...but it might work just fine. Try it and see. If it runs well keep it in the lineup. Can never have too many mags.

Again, very nice find my friend at a really great price. I dig it.

[LowThudd]

Check around at your local shops to see what they offer in stock and if their price includes the install. Sometimes they are something that goes right in no problem. Other times they are a major pain and require fitting...even when using a pusher. And most shops overcharge to do just an install with your sights, but include the install in their pricing which is more than fair, in order to encourage you to buy from them. Just trying to prepare ya and give you a heads up for ya might experience. Then again you might not.

You might find you don't need them, at least not right away. They come with all black sights that really are great for shooting at the range during the day. If and when you master it and it becomes you night stand gun, concealed carry gun, or duty gun...then changing the sights might be a good idea. Your money, your call. Not trying to talk you out of anything or into anything. Just trying to save you the frustration I experienced getting sights onto mine. Talk about one very snug fit...and I overpaid to get them installed because they just weren't cooperating for me. Had that happen on only one other gun, the rest went on like butter. Ya never know.

Also, I wouldn't be so hasty and toss the Kimber mag as others suggested. I wouldn't go out and buy more...but it might work just fine. Try it and see. If it runs well keep it in the lineup.

Thanks for the advice. I'll keep it in mind.

[LowThudd]

Looks good on paper, crap in real life. Read this article.

The article begins:

At some horrible, fateful point in the late 80′s or so, the 3 dot sight system assumed the throne of its seemingly never-ending reign of terror. Yes, I hate 3 dot sights, and so should you.

Why on earth would I(or you) read past that. You have been advocating fiber optic sights(three dot) then suggest to read an article that begins with the author blasting ALL three dot sights. I prefer three dot, so I'll not bother to read further.

[INFAMOUS762X39]

Nice OP. Congrats!

Here is a recent picture of my piece of crap beater Kimber TLE. Tripp Research Cobra Mags FTW.



-Used Two 8rd Cobra Mags, loaded 5 rounds in each. Standing Freestyle.
-Have not been to the range in over 10 months.

[LowThudd]

I hate 3 dot sights. You just assumed I meant 3 dot when I said fiber optic or gold bead.

You prefer 3 dot because you've never tried a single front dot, don't understand their usage, and your shooting is mostly comprised of slow fire target shooting. Nothing wrong with that, but you might learn something if you read that article. The author is an accomplished shooter, gunsmith, and the maker of high quality aftermarket parts for Glocks, M&Ps and 1911s.

OK, the article brings up some good points. I'll look into just a front fiber optic or night sight alone. Cheap enough to try.

[onelonehorseman]

Congrats OP! My wife has a Stainless Gold Match II and absolutely loves it. She shoots it well too. You got a good price and I think you will really like your Kimber.

[Rhyyke]

I stuck with the stock black rear and just threw a red fiber optic on the front of my Custom II. Cost me like $40 and works just fine.

I highly prefer the two dot or one dot system of sights. Easier to acquire your sight picture and less distracting so your eye focuses on the front sight naturally. Three dot still appears to be the standard but a lot of semi-custom 1911 builders are moving away from it, probably due to customer demand.

[davefromca]

I bought the same gun from sportsmanoutdoor for the same price. A few of my peers smirked at the thought of a kimber but after a thousand rounds she runs great. I just threw in another kimber brand mag in with my order, have not had one problem.