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  • keenkeen
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2011
    • 6782

    Originally posted by meno377
    I actually delete all the text including the title. That way it truly shows nothing except that I created a post and the replies to the post.
    You are doing it right.

    But just remeber, that deleted info is not really "private" or so the people begging you to not delete it will claim.

    "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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    • Saym14
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2009
      • 7892

      This post should be deleted too much private info

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      • Packy14
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2008
        • 5309

        Originally posted by meno377
        I actually delete all the text including the title. That way it truly shows nothing except that I created a post and the replies to the post.
        Yup. And devious21, who is winning at Internet will find you but let's make it harder for him
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        • Packy14
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2008
          • 5309

          Originally posted by Evolved
          Something to consider is regardless of what the seller's asking price was, since most negotiations take place via PM then that price may not accurately reflect the actual selling price or even if it was traded. Best thing to do is stay active and search out what you want and document asking prices crossed with dates to build some sort of graph of prices. That still doesn't guarantee you'll find the actual sold price but it helps.
          The bigger thing to consider is..who cares what it sold for, people will post a gun for what they want to sell it for, the market will determine if it's correct because if there are no buyers at a given price, the item won't sell and the price will be lowered or the item will be taken off the market (or bumped a 100 times). Thus it doesn't matter what a specific gun sold for a month ago because the market is dynamic. Economics seems very difficult for some *cough* devious *cough*
          Last edited by Packy14; 07-12-2015, 9:20 PM.
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          • devious21
            Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 365

            Originally posted by meno377
            Removing the price is a courtesy for the buyer. It's a negotiated deal between the seller and buyer and no one else. Some have said to post a price but not reflect what the actual sales price was which IMO is pointless. Do you advertise what you purchased your automobile for?

            Also as I have said before, the listed price that some may leave up is useless the next week or month depending on what's going on with current events. Even if Calguns was to require a "control panel" to fill in the sales price that would remain there after the deal was closed, the sellers can put an "inflated" price, only to sell for a different amount.
            The asking price has nothing to do with the buyer. No one knows who the buyer is (unless they choose to leave feedback or they tell everyone they "I'll take it") and no one knows what price you and seller settled on.

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            • devious21
              Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 365

              Originally posted by Packy14
              . Thus it doesn't matter what a specific gun sold for a month ago because the market is dynamic. Economics seems very difficult for some *cough* devious *cough*
              You think prices drastically change for all the guns month to month? Is it possible? Sure, anything is possible.

              You seem to be the one who finds it difficult to fathom how to properly take advantage of market data. Pricing information seems to be completely useless in your hands, so you can't understand why anyone would want it.

              Toilet paper was $10 last month. But it could be ANY PRICE this month.

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              • Packy14
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2008
                • 5309

                Originally posted by devious21
                You think prices drastically change for all the guns month to month? Is it possible? Sure, anything is possible.

                You seem to be the one who finds it difficult to fathom how to properly take advantage of market data. Pricing information seems to be completely useless in your hands, so you can't understand why anyone would want it.

                Toilet paper was $10 last month. But it could be ANY PRICE this month.
                Yes because I have personally seen it in the last 3 months (200-300$ changes on certain pistols) ... But I'm sure you know better either way you ain't getting the info from most of us, so sucks to be you.
                Last edited by Packy14; 07-12-2015, 9:31 PM.
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                • devious21
                  Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 365

                  Originally posted by Packy14
                  Yes because I have personally seen it in the last 3 months (200-300$ changes on certain pistols) ...
                  Notice how I explicitly said that it could happen. But does your example exclude ALL guns and dictate that they will all behave that way.

                  All the arguments here seem to think that there are exceptions where the data could not be useful so NONE OF IT is useful or ever could be.

                  Originally posted by Packy14
                  either way you ain't getting the info from most of us, so sucks to be you.
                  What are you talking about? I'm getting all your info. Your giving it to me. Your giving it to everyone. It's on the internet for sht's sake. Do you know what the internet is?

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                  • Packy14
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 5309

                    Originally posted by devious21
                    Notice how I explicitly said that it could happen. But does your example exclude ALL guns and dictate that they will all behave that way.

                    All the arguments here seem to think that there are exceptions where the data could not be useful so NONE OF IT is useful or ever could be.



                    What are you talking about? I'm getting all your info. Your giving it to me. Your giving it to everyone. It's on the internet for sht's sake. Do you know what the internet is?
                    Fantastic, then you won't mind when I or others delete our threads. Oh, but wait, you're still complaining so our "ineffective" deleting of our sale threads and prices sure seems to be vexing you. I love that fact, actually.
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                    • devious21
                      Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 365

                      Originally posted by Packy14
                      Fantastic, then you won't mind when I or others delete our threads. Oh, but wait, you're still complaining so our "ineffective" deleting of our sale threads and prices sure seems to be vexing you. I love that fact, actually.
                      Let me be absolutely clear. I said it earlier but I'll say it again just for you.

                      Don't worry about me. I have all the data I need (going forward). Knowing that so many on here have such wild views regarding this, I can just save it going forward. You can remove it all. Once it's been on the internet, it's there for anyone who wants it. If you choose to post it, I can have it. There's nothing to stop me or anyone else to simply grab it all and then view it later.

                      But it absolutely is a dick move to the community and makes it harder for everyone to view and understand the very unique market with have in California. The reasons people have given to hide it are mostly invalid (it's not useful, it's no one's business, etc). These are mostly silly.

                      So yes, feel free to sht all over the community. Sell your wares for free, give nothing back and give everyone the finger. It's your right after all.

                      It won't impact me besides the fact that I know that I'm part of a community that has members who would rather cut each other down than help each other out.

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                      • meno377
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                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 4911

                        Originally posted by devious21
                        The asking price has nothing to do with the buyer. No one knows who the buyer is (unless they choose to leave feedback or they tell everyone they "I'll take it") and no one knows what price you and seller settled on.
                        And that's why it is pointless to leave it up.
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                        • Packy14
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 5309

                          Originally posted by devious21
                          Let me be absolutely clear. I said it earlier but I'll say it again just for you.

                          Don't worry about me. I have all the data I need (going forward). Knowing that so many on here have such wild views regarding this, I can just save it going forward. You can remove it all. Once it's been on the internet, it's there for anyone who wants it. If you choose to post it, I can have it. There's nothing to stop me or anyone else to simply grab it all and then view it later.

                          But it absolutely is a dick move to the community and makes it harder for everyone to view and understand the very unique market with have in California. The reasons people have given to hide it are mostly invalid (it's not useful, it's no one's business, etc). These are mostly silly.

                          So yes, feel free to sht all over the community. Sell your wares for free, give nothing back and give everyone the finger. It's your right after all.

                          It won't impact me besides the fact that I know that I'm part of a community that has members who would rather cut each other down than help each other out.

                          Lol. My feedback says all I have to say. Your name says all I have to know about you. What others do is their problem but you can cry and complain but people will do what feels most comfortable to them. Insult me, etc, won't change a thing.
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                          • meno377
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                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 4911

                            Originally posted by devious21
                            Let me be absolutely clear. I said it earlier but I'll say it again just for you.

                            Don't worry about me. I have all the data I need (going forward). Knowing that so many on here have such wild views regarding this, I can just save it going forward. You can remove it all. Once it's been on the internet, it's there for anyone who wants it. If you choose to post it, I can have it. There's nothing to stop me or anyone else to simply grab it all and then view it later.

                            But it absolutely is a dick move to the community and makes it harder for everyone to view and understand the very unique market with have in California. The reasons people have given to hide it are mostly invalid (it's not useful, it's no one's business, etc). These are mostly silly.

                            So yes, feel free to sht all over the community. Sell your wares for free, give nothing back and give everyone the finger. It's your right after all.

                            It won't impact me besides the fact that I know that I'm part of a community that has members who would rather cut each other down than help each other out.
                            No it's not. It's a PRIVATE transaction between the seller and the buyer. Not leaving the price up after the transaction is completely harmless to the community of CG and it doesn't make it harder to understand the "very unique market".

                            Originally posted by Packy14
                            Lol. My feedback says all I have to say. Your name says all I have to know about you. What others do is their problem but you can cry and complain but people will do what feels most comfortable to them. Insult me, etc, won't change a thing.
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                            Originally posted by Fjold
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                            Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program.
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                            • paintballdad
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 1203

                              Originally posted by Packy14
                              either way you ain't getting the info from most of us, so sucks to be you.
                              Originally posted by devious21
                              What are you talking about? I'm getting all your info. Your giving it to me. Your giving it to everyone. It's on the internet for sht's sake. Do you know what the internet is?
                              If you already have all the info or can get it on the internet for $h!t's sake, then why the constant whining and arguing about wanting us not to delete the data?

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                              • SamsDX
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 1451

                                Originally posted by Packy14
                                Economics seems very difficult for some *cough* devious *cough*
                                This is rich, considering the source.

                                Funny thing, markets are more efficient when, surprise! there's more information, just as devious says. This is such a fundamental fact of economics, it's not even subject to debate. Go to a high-school level economics textbook, and you'll find it within the first couple of pages.
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