So I got pulled over and ticketed this weekend...

[Decoligny]

If your agency neglected to inform you of the five day rule, then so be it. What concerns me is many of you may have received your permit qualifications through schools that might not know about this agreement the states counties now require. If in doubt call your local agency, why believe me.
Once you call your IA then talk to me, until then you had the wrong instructor or someone other then law enforcement taught your class...
If im correct the original OP is from OC, as one poster pointed out, his agreement states he agreed to the 5 day in writing. Get your letter to them even if its not that positive of a simple traffic stop.
Thanks JonW.

Should the license holder display or utilize the concealed weapon for which the license has been issued, the license holder shall notify the Commander of PSD (or said agency) within five days. This notice shall be in writing, and shall include the circumstances resulting in the use of the weapon. As to the gentleman that assists INSISTS on a penal code, your CCW is a privilege not a right, thus no PC#s
DISPLAYED is the magic word with the new agreement California has.

Bolded is the first truly accurate thing I have seen posted so far.

I have just e-mailed the question to my IA.

Will post the "official" answer as soon as recieved.

If the answer is "no such requirement exists", I expect that Mark49 will either admit he was wrong, or he will disappear and not post again until everyone forgets who he is.

If the answer is "yes, the requirement is listed __________", then we will all have a definitive answer instead of just the BS of "I was told by a CCW Instructor who happened to be a Deputy, proving that everything he says is Gospel Truth and Black Letter Law."

[Sharp Shooter]

[thayne]

If your agency neglected to inform you of the five day rule, then so be it. What concerns me is many of you may have received your permit qualifications through schools that might not know about this agreement the states counties now require. If in doubt call your local agency, why believe me.
Once you call your IA then talk to me, until then you had the wrong instructor or someone other then law enforcement taught your class...
If im correct the original OP is from OC, as one poster pointed out, his agreement states he agreed to the 5 day in writing. Get your letter to them even if its not that positive of a simple traffic stop.
Thanks JonW.

Should the license holder display or utilize the concealed weapon for which the license has been issued, the license holder shall notify the Commander of PSD (or said agency) within five days. This notice shall be in writing, and shall include the circumstances resulting in the use of the weapon.
As to the gentleman that assists on a penal code, your CCW is a privilege not a right, thus no PC#s
DISPLAYED is the magic word with the new agreement California has.

[-hanko]

Speeding in a rice-rocket usually ends badly.

[EROCO]

Speeding in a rice-rocket usually ends badly.

Someone must've taken a ninja pic of me merging on the freeway..



I was only half throttle..

[Kilber]

Yes, my advice is don't get pulled over. I for the most part cruise along on the slow lanes and have a spotless driving record until yesterday. It was bad luck on my part and had to accelerate to avoid a potentially unsafe freeway merge.

Riiight, EVO in the slow lane. What's the point of getting an EVO, to drive in the slow lane? I'm not trying to bash you, but you need to just own it. It wasn't bad luck because you had to accelerate, it was bad luck you got caught. Exceeding the speed in the name of safety, is not a legitimate excuse in court. Am I perfect? No! Do I speed? Yes! Do I complain when I get caught? No! Do I fight it in court? Yes! Do I win? 3/4!

[EROCO]

Riiight, EVO in the slow lane. What's the point of getting an EVO, to drive in the slow lane? I'm not trying to bash you, but you need to just own it. It wasn't bad luck because you had to accelerate, it was bad luck you got caught. Exceeding the speed in the name of safety, is not a legitimate excuse in court. Am I perfect? No! Do I speed? Yes! Do I complain when I get caught? No! Do I fight it in court? Yes! Do I win? 3/4!

I never denied the speeding part and this post is not about that as I've mentioned before. You are speculating a lot there, yea thanks for your input there Hoss.

I did own it, reading comprehension much ?

[Kilber]

As I understand it, speeding tickets are not for exceeding the posted limit, but for traveling at a speed unsafe for conditions.
(Even though the government wants us to believe otherwise.)

Therefore, exceeding the posted limit when you are committed to a merge is not unsafe.
However, the same driving instructor that told me that the only place the police want you to floor it is on an on-ramp, told me it is easier to brake than accelerate when merging.

Complete BS:

VC 22348. (a) Notwithstanding subdivision (b) of Section 22351, a
person shall not drive a vehicle upon a highway with a speed limit
established pursuant to Section 22349 or 22356 at a speed greater
than that speed limit.


VC 22349. (a) Except as provided in Section 22356, no person may drive
a vehicle upon a highway at a speed greater than 65 miles per hour.
(b) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no person may
drive a vehicle upon a two-lane, undivided highway at a speed greater
than 55 miles per hour unless that highway, or portion thereof, has
been posted for a higher speed by the Department of Transportation or
appropriate local agency upon the basis of an engineering and
traffic survey. For purposes of this subdivision, the following
apply...

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=veh&group=22001-23000&file=22348-22366

[Kilber]

I never denied the speeding part and this post is not about that as I've mentioned before. You are speculating a lot there, yea thanks for your input there Hoss.

I did own it, reading comprehension much ?

Owning it means not making excuses about safety. You're trying to justify your speed, when it is irrellevant. Your own justification is evidence against you, so don't bring it up in court. Just say you were pulled over for speeding. The cop had a right to detain you and put you in the back of his car while he ran your info. He had the right to do that, even if you weren't carrying. He also could have ordered your wife out of the vehicle for the duration of the stop, even if you weren't carrying. Just file a complaint if you feel you were wronged, or don't.

My post contains very little speculation...

[kantstudien]

So did you make a report or not?

[hardhead]

So, what crime were suspected of having committed prior to being detained? Did you tell the CHP that you do not consent to searches? He needs probable cause or reasonable suspicion; sounds like he had neither.

[Zedrek]

Got a source for that? I would like to see it.

There was nothing about it on the Kern County instruction on filling out the CCW Application.

http://www.kernsheriff.com/misc/FormsApps/Documents/CCW%20Application.pdf

There was no restirctions put on the License itself requiring notification be given.


Let me guess, your CCW Instructor told you that you had to inform.

My CCW Instructor told me that it was illegal to carry into any place that had a "No Firearms" sign, and that I would be arrested if I was caught carrying there.

No, it was on the list of rules that you sign when you pick up your rice paper. I'll see if I can dig mine up and post it. My instructor was a retired sheriff deputy and current reserve. He seemed on the fence about notifying.

[Mark49]

TO OLD BALD GUY..... May I ask where your permit was issued and i'll call them give you exact names etc and post it here.
As I said before, its not a law or PC code (you keep asking for something that's not applicable) its a code of conduct that California entered into along with the DOJ so we all can be blessed with the privilege of CCW....
If its a county then I'm certain it applies, a city then yes maybe they neglected to inform you or don't require it?...
I'm betting most folks on here have been informed, or maybe now checking unto it. Ignorance of the rules are not bliss. That's all I wanted to post, not argue with you...

[chris_u]

i am not a Leo but lets look at the officers point of view your gunning up the on ramp speeding and cutting off traffic on the freeway driving a Lancer evo with aftermarket exhausts << ( considered street racers car by most police officers. street racer = bad guy/criminal to most police ) you got pulled over you hand him your DL and LTC officers brain GUN GUN GUN why do you have it "self protection" same answer is given by every gang banger when they get busted with a illegal weapon. officers brain i need (GUN) to make (GUN) sure this is (GUN) all legit. the word gun is banging in his head constantly. he ask you get out of the car grabs your hands tight < this is his training he is disarming a man with a gun. and he puts in back of his car <<, for your safety and his while he runs your info. your wife gets out of the car he yells get back in the car <<<< for her and his safety remember he doesn't know her. yes he could have been nicer but remember you broke the law he did his job and everybody went home safe.

[SWalt]

My $.02......

If I felt I was treated poorly by the officer just because I had a LTC, I would talk to the watch commander and let him know as a "courtesy" what I thought. I wouldn't do it in a confrontational way either, but just as passing along that CCW holders ARE law abiding by definition, passed required background checks and went out of their way to follow the law. I would ask him just to remind his officers that they will come across ccw holders more often, not to over react and be level headed. Of course if it wasn't something minor like the OP stated but like being made to lay handcuffed face down on the hot asphalt for 20 minutes just because I had a LTC, that chat with the watch commander would be different along with the threat of filing or actually a formal complaint.